That's definitely a possibility but currently our family cannot afford any extras such as snacks, eating out or fun things like the movies but we can always put meals on our table. Perhaps that students family is making poor financial decisions though. It's hard to say without knowing the family, or anyone's situation.
Also I had snack time up to sixth grade. It was a good tie over until we got home. This student in question also rose the school bus. Who knows how early he eats for breakfast and if it is even fulling.
I think snack time sounds awesome, but we never had it in my school district. I also think that if you qualify for free lunch, it's kind of silly to expect the parent to provide a snack. But don't get me started on school lunches. I don't understand why they aren't free for every student.
That's definitely a possibility but currently our family cannot afford any extras such as snacks, eating out or fun things like the movies but we can always put meals on our table. Perhaps that students family is making poor financial decisions though. It's hard to say without knowing the family, or anyone's situation.
Also I had snack time up to sixth grade. It was a good tie over until we got home. This student in question also rose the school bus. Who knows how early he eats for breakfast and if it is even fulling.
You're right. It's hard to judge the situation without knowing all the facts. I don't remember if she said but has helloerrbody tried to provide the parents with financial or food resources? The teachers and school social workers can do this in our state. Or perhaps alerting DFS to investigate the situation and to provide services. Our state system provides wonderful services to families in need that schools might not be aware of.
Have you ever been the only kid in class without a snack? It fucking sucks. Have some compassion.
I'm only referring to the neglect discussion that was held previously. I was saying the parents were not neglecting him just because they couldn't afford snacks. I am in complete support of that teacher giving them a snack so they're included.
Umm, you asked "why does he need snack?". I'm not sure what else's that could be referring to. Regardless of who's supplying the snack, asking if he needs it implies that you think he doesn't.
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I'm only referring to the neglect discussion that was held previously. I was saying the parents were not neglecting him just because they couldn't afford snacks. I am in complete support of that teacher giving them a snack so they're included.
Umm, you asked "why does he need snack?". I'm not sure what else's that could be referring to. Regardless of who's supplying the snack, asking if he needs it implies that you think he doesn't.
Umm, you asked "why does he need snack?". I'm not sure what else's that could be referring to. Regardless of who's supplying the snack, asking if he needs it implies that you think he doesn't.
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Post by icaughtfire on Apr 4, 2015 16:51:07 GMT -5
Really @rutherily, your best bet is to move on for today. Everyone is still very heated from your recent shenanigans & no one is going to take you seriously or give a shit about your opinion.
Or you can stay & be intentionally dense & continue to piss everyone off. Ball's in your court.
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I believe that if they truly want to focus on healthy items with food stamps then not allowing chips and soda would be reasonable but they need to allow fresh produce and meat, not just cheap box and canned items. And steak and lobster is healthier than that canned item because it's fresh. helloerrbody I know this was discussed but one question I had while reading was why does that student *need* a snack? If he's receiving three meals a day, he's being provided for nutritionally and doesn't need a snack. Assuming he gets breakfast and dinner at home of course.
You know what they say when you assume, right? If NYC schools are an example, the reason they won't cut free breakfast and free lunches is because they know a lot of children are NOT being provided those meals. When I was in Jr. high, my 1st period was 7:30 (breakfast was at 6:30am at the school) lunch was 10:45 so I was starving by the time I got home at 2:45. Probably why we had snacks.
Also, nobody said he was neglected just that they couldn't afford snacks.
Also I had snack time up to sixth grade. It was a good tie over until we got home. This student in question also rose the school bus. Who knows how early he eats for breakfast and if it is even fulling.
I think snack time sounds awesome, but we never had it in my school district. I also think that if you qualify for free lunch, it's kind of silly to expect the parent to provide a snack. But don't get me started on school lunches. I don't understand why they aren't free for every student.
My elementary school had snack time, even a snack lady to purchase cookies, a pretzel, or a churro. Once a week, my mom would give me snack money to purchase a snack from the snack lady. She would give me enough so I could pick her up a pretzel too. (I'm talking the big soft pretzels.)
I believe that if they truly want to focus on healthy items with food stamps then not allowing chips and soda would be reasonable but they need to allow fresh produce and meat, not just cheap box and canned items. And steak and lobster is healthier than that canned item because it's fresh. helloerrbody I know this was discussed but one question I had while reading was why does that student *need* a snack? If he's receiving three meals a day, he's being provided for nutritionally and doesn't need a snack. Assuming he gets breakfast and dinner at home of course.
I tried reiterating several times prior to this, but I am not saying that this child is suffering from what would be legally considered neglect. However, my students eat breakfast around 6:45-7:00am and we do not go to lunch until 12:30pm. A 5-year-old does truly need a snack in between that time if they are expected to have mental and physical energy.
Also, it's an emotional hurt when you are the only one without a snack and you are asking your parents for a snack and they tell you, "we don't have money."
Also yard sales, salvation army, and goodwill are all blessings to us that struggle. You never know if said 200$ shoes are well taken care of hand me downs.
Yes, I agree that this can be the case in many, many situations. In this specific case, the child is telling me that he bought the shoes last night at _____ Mall. I highly, highly, highly doubt that he is making this up.
I believe that if they truly want to focus on healthy items with food stamps then not allowing chips and soda would be reasonable but they need to allow fresh produce and meat, not just cheap box and canned items. And steak and lobster is healthier than that canned item because it's fresh. helloerrbody I know this was discussed but one question I had while reading was why does that student *need* a snack? If he's receiving three meals a day, he's being provided for nutritionally and doesn't need a snack. Assuming he gets breakfast and dinner at home of course.
I tried reiterating several times prior to this, but I am not saying that this child is suffering from what would be legally considered neglect. However, my students eat breakfast around 6:45-7:00am and we do not go to lunch until 12:30pm. A 5-year-old does truly need a snack in between that time if they are expected to have mental and physical energy.
Also, it's an emotional hurt when you are the only one without a snack and you are asking your parents for a snack and they tell you, "we don't have money."
Plus ANYTHING that makes a kid stand out in a bad way can cause emotional hurt and long term damage. If this kid continually doesn't have snack-peers notice and will taunt and tease. Why give kids a reason to tease when it can easily be fixed?
I'm not even going to touch this subject, and I skipped most of the pages of this thread. I'm just here to say, why does everyone seem to think eating healthy is so expensive? I work in a health food store. Buying healthy food and cooking at home can absolutely be cheaper than eating junk and cheap processed foods, provided you know where to go and what to buy, and aren't shopping at stores like Whole Foods. The misconception that healthy eating is expensive isn't helping the obesity epidemic in our country.
I think snack time sounds awesome, but we never had it in my school district. I also think that if you qualify for free lunch, it's kind of silly to expect the parent to provide a snack. But don't get me started on school lunches. I don't understand why they aren't free for every student.
My elementary school had snack time, even a snack lady to purchase cookies, a pretzel, or a churro. Once a week, my mom would give me snack money to purchase a snack from the snack lady. She would give me enough so I could pick her up a pretzel too. (I'm talking the big soft pretzels.)
I'm not even going to touch this subject, and I skipped most of the pages of this thread. I'm just here to say, why does everyone seem to think eating healthy is so expensive? I work in a health food store. Buying healthy food and cooking at home can absolutely be cheaper than eating junk and cheap processed foods, provided you know where to go and what to buy, and aren't shopping at stores like Whole Foods. The misconception that healthy eating is expensive isn't helping the obesity epidemic in our country.
That 100% depends where you live. And yes, eating healthy is going to be more expensive than buying canned/boxed food.
My elementary school had snack time, even a snack lady to purchase cookies, a pretzel, or a churro. Once a week, my mom would give me snack money to purchase a snack from the snack lady. She would give me enough so I could pick her up a pretzel too. (I'm talking the big soft pretzels.)
Man, I want a snack lady at my school!
I was so sad in Jr. High because there wasn't a snack lady.
I'm not even going to touch this subject, and I skipped most of the pages of this thread. I'm just here to say, why does everyone seem to think eating healthy is so expensive? I work in a health food store. Buying healthy food and cooking at home can absolutely be cheaper than eating junk and cheap processed foods, provided you know where to go and what to buy, and aren't shopping at stores like Whole Foods. The misconception that healthy eating is expensive isn't helping the obesity epidemic in our country.
I'd like your tricks then. It costs me WAYYYYY more to buy fresh veggies and fruit than canned, fresh meat rather than a frozen pizza, and healthy grains rather than a box of mac and cheese.
ETA: I rarely shop at Whole Foods. It is more expensive anywhere I go. For reference, my options are Kroger, Tom Thumb, Sprouts, Market Street, Target, Central Market, or Trader Joe's.
I'm not even going to touch this subject, and I skipped most of the pages of this thread. I'm just here to say, why does everyone seem to think eating healthy is so expensive? I work in a health food store. Buying healthy food and cooking at home can absolutely be cheaper than eating junk and cheap processed foods, provided you know where to go and what to buy, and aren't shopping at stores like Whole Foods. The misconception that healthy eating is expensive isn't helping the obesity epidemic in our country.
There are many communities that do not have access to such stores to be able to buy healthier choices for good prices. Many people have to choose between a meal (probably unhealthy) that will feed a family of 6 for two days and a bag of apples. If that is the case-a full (unhealthy) meal will be picked because it keeps your kids full longer. Until healthy food is readily available at the same price as macaroni and cheese, change will be hard to happen.
I'm not even going to touch this subject, and I skipped most of the pages of this thread. I'm just here to say, why does everyone seem to think eating healthy is so expensive? I work in a health food store. Buying healthy food and cooking at home can absolutely be cheaper than eating junk and cheap processed foods, provided you know where to go and what to buy, and aren't shopping at stores like Whole Foods. The misconception that healthy eating is expensive isn't helping the obesity epidemic in our country.
That 100% depends where you live. And yes, eating healthy is going to be more expensive than buying canned/boxed food.
I've only ever lived in Michigan, so I can't speak for other areas. But fruit and vegetables are cheap everywhere, if you're buying in season. Buying boxed and canned food IS more expensive. Buying simple, fresh ingredients for meals is more work, but it isn't more expensive in the long run than living off processed stuff. There's also the simple fact that wholesome food is way more filling, and keeps you full longer - therefore you eat less.
That 100% depends where you live. And yes, eating healthy is going to be more expensive than buying canned/boxed food.
I've only ever lived in Michigan, so I can't speak for other areas. But fruit and vegetables are cheap everywhere, if you're buying in season. Buying boxed and canned food IS more expensive. Buying simple, fresh ingredients for meals is more work, but it isn't more expensive in the long run than living off processed stuff. There's also the simple fact that wholesome food is way more filling, and keeps you full longer - therefore you eat less.
False. You have no idea what you're talking about.
I'm not even going to touch this subject, and I skipped most of the pages of this thread. I'm just here to say, why does everyone seem to think eating healthy is so expensive? I work in a health food store. Buying healthy food and cooking at home can absolutely be cheaper than eating junk and cheap processed foods, provided you know where to go and what to buy, and aren't shopping at stores like Whole Foods. The misconception that healthy eating is expensive isn't helping the obesity epidemic in our country.
There are many communities that do not have access to such stores to be able to buy healthier choices for good prices. Many people have to choose between a meal (probably unhealthy) that will feed a family of 6 for two days and a bag of apples. If that is the case-a full (unhealthy) meal will be picked because it keeps your kids full longer. Until healthy food is readily available at the same price as macaroni and cheese, change will be hard to happen.
A large bag of organic apples costs $5.49 at my store. I'd like to know where a person could get enough food to feed 6 people for 2 days for $5.49.
That 100% depends where you live. And yes, eating healthy is going to be more expensive than buying canned/boxed food.
I've only ever lived in Michigan, so I can't speak for other areas. But fruit and vegetables are cheap everywhere, if you're buying in season. Buying boxed and canned food IS more expensive. Buying simple, fresh ingredients for meals is more work, but it isn't more expensive in the long run than living off processed stuff. There's also the simple fact that wholesome food is way more filling, and keeps you full longer - therefore you eat less.
I have lived in the Midwest my whole life as well and I disagree. Fruit and vegetables are not cheap here. They are way more expensive than processed box foods. Wholesome food may be filling but again you need time and money to get it/make it, a luxury many do not have.
I've only ever lived in Michigan, so I can't speak for other areas. But fruit and vegetables are cheap everywhere, if you're buying in season. Buying boxed and canned food IS more expensive. Buying simple, fresh ingredients for meals is more work, but it isn't more expensive in the long run than living off processed stuff. There's also the simple fact that wholesome food is way more filling, and keeps you full longer - therefore you eat less.
False. You have no idea what you're talking about.
Actually, I really do. But if you think I'm wrong, feel free to enlighten me.
That 100% depends where you live. And yes, eating healthy is going to be more expensive than buying canned/boxed food.
I've only ever lived in Michigan, so I can't speak for other areas. But fruit and vegetables are cheap everywhere, if you're buying in season. Buying boxed and canned food IS more expensive. Buying simple, fresh ingredients for meals is more work, but it isn't more expensive in the long run than living off processed stuff. There's also the simple fact that wholesome food is way more filling, and keeps you full longer - therefore you eat less.
I'm sure parents who are probably working 2-3 jobs trying to support a family on minimum wage salaries have plenty of time to whip up amazing meals from scratch using the freshest, most natural ingredients.
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There are many communities that do not have access to such stores to be able to buy healthier choices for good prices. Many people have to choose between a meal (probably unhealthy) that will feed a family of 6 for two days and a bag of apples. If that is the case-a full (unhealthy) meal will be picked because it keeps your kids full longer. Until healthy food is readily available at the same price as macaroni and cheese, change will be hard to happen.
A large bag of organic apples costs $5.49 at my store. I'd like to know where a person could get enough food to feed 6 people for 2 days for $5.49.
Aldis, cub, rainbow, Walmart. Woodman's...shall I continue?
I'm sure parents who are probably working 2-3 jobs trying to support a family on minimum wage salaries have plenty of time to whip up amazing meals from scratch using the freshest, most natural ingredients.
I guess she needs me to do more research applicable to Michigan to show her how wrong she is.
There are many communities that do not have access to such stores to be able to buy healthier choices for good prices. Many people have to choose between a meal (probably unhealthy) that will feed a family of 6 for two days and a bag of apples. If that is the case-a full (unhealthy) meal will be picked because it keeps your kids full longer. Until healthy food is readily available at the same price as macaroni and cheese, change will be hard to happen.
A large bag of organic apples costs $5.49 at my store. I'd like to know where a person could get enough food to feed 6 people for 2 days for $5.49.
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The fact that people are getting angry because I said that health food doesn't need to be expensive is actually pretty telling.
If you know where to shop and how to cook, eating healthy can be just as cheap as eating crap all the time. I know this for a fact, because I am a person who ate crap all the time and then changed my eating habits to healthy ones. I spend less money on food than I did when I ate a bunch of processed garbage. Nothing anyone says to me in argument is going to change the fact that I now spend less on food than I used to.
The fact that people are getting angry because I said that health food doesn't need to be expensive is actually pretty telling.
If you know where to shop and how to cook, eating healthy can be just as cheap as eating crap all the time. I know this for a fact, because I am a person who ate crap all the time and then changed my eating habits to healthy ones. I spend less money on food than I did when I ate a bunch of processed garbage. Nothing anyone says to me in argument is going to change the fact that I now spend less on food than I used to.
Then give us examples. What healthy foods can I buy for cheap and how much do they cost? What are you talking about. Enlighten us.
I've only ever lived in Michigan, so I can't speak for other areas. But fruit and vegetables are cheap everywhere, if you're buying in season. Buying boxed and canned food IS more expensive. Buying simple, fresh ingredients for meals is more work, but it isn't more expensive in the long run than living off processed stuff. There's also the simple fact that wholesome food is way more filling, and keeps you full longer - therefore you eat less.
I'm sure parents who are probably working 2-3 jobs trying to support a family on minimum wage salaries have plenty of time to whip up amazing meals from scratch using the freshest, most natural ingredients.
I never said they did. I said IF YOU HAVE TIME, AND CAN COOK. Some people can't. I'm talking about the COST of the raw ingredients required to eat healthy here, people. Read what I wrote before trying to argue.
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