The fact that people are getting angry because I said that health food doesn't need to be expensive is actually pretty telling.
If you know where to shop and how to cook, eating healthy can be just as cheap as eating crap all the time. I know this for a fact, because I am a person who ate crap all the time and then changed my eating habits to healthy ones. I spend less money on food than I did when I ate a bunch of processed garbage. Nothing anyone says to me in argument is going to change the fact that I now spend less on food than I used to.
Tell me please how eating healthy is cheaper than eating crappy foods. Your example-$5 bag of apples which is a healthy SNACK, $5 can buy a whole day's worth of processed MEALS.
There's nothing unhealthy about rice (eaten in moderation - and brown rice costs a matter of cents more than white), beans, peanut butter, or jelly (also in moderation, because sugar).
The fact that people are getting angry because I said that health food doesn't need to be expensive is actually pretty telling.
If you know where to shop and how to cook, eating healthy can be just as cheap as eating crap all the time. I know this for a fact, because I am a person who ate crap all the time and then changed my eating habits to healthy ones. I spend less money on food than I did when I ate a bunch of processed garbage. Nothing anyone says to me in argument is going to change the fact that I now spend less on food than I used to.
Cab, I like you but you're coming across as awfully judgy. What may work for you doesn't work for all. Just because you spend less doesn't mean you spend what an average low-income family can afford. These families are often single parent or both parents working multiple jobs. They may not have the time or the know-how to make healthy, filling meals. Jump down off the high horse.
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The fact that people are getting angry because I said that health food doesn't need to be expensive is actually pretty telling.
If you know where to shop and how to cook, eating healthy can be just as cheap as eating crap all the time. I know this for a fact, because I am a person who ate crap all the time and then changed my eating habits to healthy ones. I spend less money on food than I did when I ate a bunch of processed garbage. Nothing anyone says to me in argument is going to change the fact that I now spend less on food than I used to.
Tell me please how eating healthy is cheaper than eating crappy foods. Your example-$5 bag of apples which is a healthy SNACK, $5 can buy a whole day's worth of processed MEALS.
A bag of apples (maybe along with a jar of natural peanut butter - $4.99) can be afternoon snacks or breakfast for a week and a half.
There's nothing unhealthy about rice (eaten in moderation - and brown rice costs a matter of cents more than white), beans, peanut butter, or jelly (also in moderation, because sugar).
Also, please explain to me how you're considering peanut butter and jelly a healthy food choice.
There are many communities that do not have access to such stores to be able to buy healthier choices for good prices. Many people have to choose between a meal (probably unhealthy) that will feed a family of 6 for two days and a bag of apples. If that is the case-a full (unhealthy) meal will be picked because it keeps your kids full longer. Until healthy food is readily available at the same price as macaroni and cheese, change will be hard to happen.
A large bag of organic apples costs $5.49 at my store. I'd like to know where a person could get enough food to feed 6 people for 2 days for $5.49.
Umm Ramen Noodles are $4.99 here for a package of 12. Each package has 4 servings in it.
Also, in what world does a bag of organic apples feed a family of 6 for 2 days!??!?! Why is that the comparison?
You're going to be waiting a while. Do you actually think I'm going to look this shit up and list it for the sake of proving you wrong? I already know who's right here. I also just got home from work, where I stood for 8 hours, ringing this food up and selling it to people in the low-income area I work in. Incidentally, many of them used their EBT cards, and I don't think I waited on anyone who drove a Porsche today, in case anyone's curious.
The fact that people are getting angry because I said that health food doesn't need to be expensive is actually pretty telling.
If you know where to shop and how to cook, eating healthy can be just as cheap as eating crap all the time. I know this for a fact, because I am a person who ate crap all the time and then changed my eating habits to healthy ones. I spend less money on food than I did when I ate a bunch of processed garbage. Nothing anyone says to me in argument is going to change the fact that I now spend less on food than I used to.
What are we telling you? That we suck at shopping?
Tell me please how eating healthy is cheaper than eating crappy foods. Your example-$5 bag of apples which is a healthy SNACK, $5 can buy a whole day's worth of processed MEALS.
A bag of apples (maybe along with a jar of natural peanut butter - $4.99) can be afternoon snacks or breakfast for a week and a half.
Ok so for $5 you can buy ONE healthy meal For one person. I am telling you for $5 I can feed a family of 4, 3 meals a day for 2-3 days!
You're going to be waiting a while. Do you actually think I'm going to look this shit up and list it for the sake of proving you wrong? I already know who's right here. I also just got home from work, where I stood for 8 hours, ringing this food up and selling it to people in the low-income area I work in. Incidentally, many of them used their EBT cards, and I don't think I waited on anyone who drove a Porsche today, in case anyone's curious.
There's nothing unhealthy about rice (eaten in moderation - and brown rice costs a matter of cents more than white), beans, peanut butter, or jelly (also in moderation, because sugar).
Also, please explain to me how you're considering peanut butter and jelly a healthy food choice.
What's wrong with peanut butter?
Preserves are okay in moderation, too, if they're natural and without additives.
The fact that people are getting angry because I said that health food doesn't need to be expensive is actually pretty telling.
If you know where to shop and how to cook, eating healthy can be just as cheap as eating crap all the time. I know this for a fact, because I am a person who ate crap all the time and then changed my eating habits to healthy ones. I spend less money on food than I did when I ate a bunch of processed garbage. Nothing anyone says to me in argument is going to change the fact that I now spend less on food than I used to.
What are we telling you? That we suck at shopping?
People don't seem to want to believe that healthy eating is an option for them. That's all that I'm saying.
You're going to be waiting a while. Do you actually think I'm going to look this shit up and list it for the sake of proving you wrong? I already know who's right here. I also just got home from work, where I stood for 8 hours, ringing this food up and selling it to people in the low-income area I work in. Incidentally, many of them used their EBT cards, and I don't think I waited on anyone who drove a Porsche today, in case anyone's curious.
WTAF. Did you have a terrible day or something?
Seriously. Dude, why don't you go take a hot shower, eat a delicious home cooked healthy meal, grab a drink & come back when you're not raging out.
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There are many communities that do not have access to such stores to be able to buy healthier choices for good prices. Many people have to choose between a meal (probably unhealthy) that will feed a family of 6 for two days and a bag of apples. If that is the case-a full (unhealthy) meal will be picked because it keeps your kids full longer. Until healthy food is readily available at the same price as macaroni and cheese, change will be hard to happen.
A large bag of organic apples costs $5.49 at my store. I'd like to know where a person could get enough food to feed 6 people for 2 days for $5.49.
Where do you shop?/work? Do you get a discount for your store? I can't get a large bag of regular apples for that all the time.
You're going to be waiting a while. Do you actually think I'm going to look this shit up and list it for the sake of proving you wrong? I already know who's right here. I also just got home from work, where I stood for 8 hours, ringing this food up and selling it to people in the low-income area I work in. Incidentally, many of them used their EBT cards, and I don't think I waited on anyone who drove a Porsche today, in case anyone's curious.
WTAF. Did you have a terrible day or something?
Not at all. She wants to argue; I'm not in the mood.
This thread was ill-conceived, and opening it on page 7 after everyone had ample time to get all riled up was probably a bad idea.
I'm not even going to touch this subject, and I skipped most of the pages of this thread. I'm just here to say, why does everyone seem to think eating healthy is so expensive? I work in a health food store. Buying healthy food and cooking at home can absolutely be cheaper than eating junk and cheap processed foods, provided you know where to go and what to buy, and aren't shopping at stores like Whole Foods. The misconception that healthy eating is expensive isn't helping the obesity epidemic in our country.
What are we telling you? That we suck at shopping?
People don't seem to want to believe that healthy eating is an option for them. That's all that I'm saying.
No one in this thread was saying that healthy eating is not an option for THEMSELVES. They were referring to those who are struggling to make ends meet to feed their family.
Let's compare.... McDonald's hamburgers from the 99cent menu to feed a family of 6 - $6 plus change. A package of lean ground beef or ground turkey (at least $6 here), whole-grain buns ($2), cheese ($5).
I'm not even going to touch this subject, and I skipped most of the pages of this thread. I'm just here to say, why does everyone seem to think eating healthy is so expensive? I work in a health food store. Buying healthy food and cooking at home can absolutely be cheaper than eating junk and cheap processed foods, provided you know where to go and what to buy, and aren't shopping at stores like Whole Foods. The misconception that healthy eating is expensive isn't helping the obesity epidemic in our country.
Does your health food store take food stamps?
Yes. I'd say 30-40% of our customers use SNAP benefits.
Cabgirl you are actually right you can eat healthish (ISH) on a budget. Frozen veg are pretty cheap if you have a freezer (not everyone does) fresh veg are expensive even in season, but some aren't. IE carrots, potatoes, onions etc. Lentils and other dried beans are cheap too. Yogurt, tuna and eggs are good choices too for a budgeting family.
I managed to feed me and my son on 50 bucks a week sometimes when I was low income single mother. He was 2-4 at this time, so he really wasn't eating much, milk and other toddler staples were my more expensive items.
Here is the thing though. Sometimes I WAS HUNGRY. SOMETIMES I ran out of food two days before payday. Sometimes, I didn't want to cook after an 11 hour day which includes a lot of bus travel.
Sometimes my kid REFUSED to eat my healthy food. SOMETIMES I WANTED STEAK!
I am also incredibly lucky to have grown up in a household where I learned how to make food from scratch and what was healthy. Not everyone is in that position. You walk in a store and see peppers for 3.99 a pound and next to it canned spaghetti 4 for 5 dollars.
People don't seem to want to believe that healthy eating is an option for them. That's all that I'm saying.
No one in this thread was saying that healthy eating is not an option for THEMSELVES. They were referring to those who are struggling to make ends meet to feed their family.
Let's compare.... McDonald's hamburgers from the 99cent menu to feed a family of 6 - $6 plus change. A package of lean ground beef or ground turkey (at least $6 here), whole-grain buns ($2), cheese ($5).
REALLY!?!?!?
So each person in that family of six is going to eat one tiny 99 cent hamburger for dinner and be satiated? Okay.
Seriously. Dude, why don't you go take a hot shower, eat a delicious home cooked healthy meal, grab a drink & come back when you're not raging out.
Are you joking? What did I say here that was anything other than calm and reasonable?
No jokes. You're getting pretty defensive anytime anyone questions you. You've taken on a "I'm right & I'm not arguing or answering questions/giving examples because I know I'm right!" attitude...you know that shit doesn't fly here.
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Not at all. She wants to argue; I'm not in the mood.
This thread was ill-conceived, and opening it on page 7 after everyone had ample time to get all riled up was probably a bad idea.
Not sure which "she" you are referring to but many of us are simy asking how this can be true, give examples. You are the one getting argumentative.
No. I'm expressing what's obviously an unpopular opinion, and am unwilling to continue to argue about it. At no point was I rude or sarcastic. I don't need to convince anyone here that I'm right. Nor am I angry or at all bothered by the fact that people disagree with me. I have no idea why people are implying that I'm somehow out of line and need to calm down.
No one in this thread was saying that healthy eating is not an option for THEMSELVES. They were referring to those who are struggling to make ends meet to feed their family.
Let's compare.... McDonald's hamburgers from the 99cent menu to feed a family of 6 - $6 plus change. A package of lean ground beef or ground turkey (at least $6 here), whole-grain buns ($2), cheese ($5).
REALLY!?!?!?
So each person in that family of six is going to eat one tiny 99 cent hamburger for dinner and be satiated? Okay.
NO THEY ARENT THEY ARE GOING TO BE HUNGRY BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE WHEN CANT AFFORD FOOD!!!
Tell me please how eating healthy is cheaper than eating crappy foods. Your example-$5 bag of apples which is a healthy SNACK, $5 can buy a whole day's worth of processed MEALS.
A bag of apples (maybe along with a jar of natural peanut butter - $4.99) can be afternoon snacks or breakfast for a week and a half.
TROLLOLOLOL. Tell that to my toddlers. Spoiler alert: I pay more than that it Nebraska which has one of the lowest costs of living in the entire country.
No one in this thread was saying that healthy eating is not an option for THEMSELVES. They were referring to those who are struggling to make ends meet to feed their family.
Let's compare.... McDonald's hamburgers from the 99cent menu to feed a family of 6 - $6 plus change. A package of lean ground beef or ground turkey (at least $6 here), whole-grain buns ($2), cheese ($5).
REALLY!?!?!?
So each person in that family of six is going to eat one tiny 99 cent hamburger for dinner and be satiated? Okay.
It was a fucking example. Something you have yet to give.
And if they are struggling to make ends meet, who says they get the luxury of being satiated!?!??!
Not at all. She wants to argue; I'm not in the mood.
This thread was ill-conceived, and opening it on page 7 after everyone had ample time to get all riled up was probably a bad idea.
Ill-concieved? What the fuck is wrong with you today? To discuss the fact that millions of people can't afford to feed their families is ill-conceived?
Don't try to make it about me being insensitive or indifferent to the plight of poor. Really, just don't.
The stated reason for starting the thread was boredom. It was started to spark an argument and provoke exactly this kind of drama, for the purpose of entertainment. The "using food stamps for skittles" thing is an ongoing debate here.
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