27alex, the longest wait was just getting an appointment and then going through testing. After consult, blood tests, HSG and SA, I took prometrium to bring on my period and then started meds that cycle. With our oral medication and TI cycles, we were fortunate that ultrasounds and other visits didn't fall on any dates while we would be away. When we started injects, I definitely wanted to make sure we were available to go to appointments and able to get meds shipped to me if I needed to so we didn't schedule around that.
Thanks! The more I'm reading, the more I'm thinking this might not be the best time. I'm a nanny, and taking time off can be hard. When her mother is traveling ( dad commutes almost two hours) so id potentially have to bring her to appointments with me and DH is only available Tuesdays.
I can research and research but I just would like to hear first hand accounts instead. From your initial RE appointment, about how long was it before treatment began? I know this can vary based on when in your cycle your visit was. Mine will be CD16 and I typically ovulate the following week (like that means anything) but I would like a plan asap. Am I being realistic in thinking testing/treatment will happen quickly?
Also, those of you that have done/will do treatments, did you schedule around vacations or trips?
It varies, but does take some time to get all the testing. My OB did all of my CD3 bloodwork in Sept before we were going to move forward. I did my HSG &dH's SA with a first RE (he ended up dropping my insurance so I had to switch) in Dec, and I met with our new RE in early Jan when he have us his plan. We weren't quite ready to pull the trigger, but after one more natural cycle, we moved forward in Feb. I would say, I would count it as 3 months for us.
TTC #1 starting July 2013, RE last 2014 First Angel baby lost July 11, 2014 IUI #1 with injections successful: EDD 11/24/15 Rainbow baby DD born 11/14/15 TTC#2 October 2016 Second Angel baby lost Jan 5, 2017
How reliable is a chart after Clomid and a trigger shot? My pre-O temps look normal but they jumped up two days after my trigger shot and today's temp dropped down to 97.3. I triggered Saturday night and had my IUI yesterday. Should I just stop temping? I honestly have no idea when/if I O'ed.
You are me right now (except I did TI, so it matters less on the timing). I triggered Sunday morning and Monday's temp was high, today's is low. Everything I've read said that O is normally 36-40 hours after the shot and (and IUI is best within 6 hours of O?), so yours should be perfect. I think it can take 12-24 hours after O for your temp to actually rise. So it could be that the hcg shot caused a temp spike, and your temp tomorrow will be high as the result of O'ing sometime later in the day yesterday. I understand your frustration, but I would trust that they did it right.
Thanks, that actually makes me feel a little better
TTC #1 since August 2013 DX: Endo November 2014: Hysteroscopy, D&C June - September 2015: Clomid + Novarel + IUI #1-3 January 2017: Laparoscopy - endo removed
Another question, does the HSG need to be done prior to ovulation? Or can it be done at any point during your cycle? We were told we have a 3% chance based on the stats so I'm not worried about that.
Another question, does the HSG need to be done prior to ovulation? Or can it be done at any point during your cycle? We were told we have a 3% chance based on the stats so I'm not worried about that.
IT can technically be done at any point in your cycle if you're abstaining strictly, or on another medication that would prevent pregnancy.
5 years TTC 2 c/p's 2 failed IUIs/1 cancelled IVF 1 failed IVF 1 failed FET BFP 12/1/15. We said goodbye to Tiny 1/4/16 Fresh cycle #3 2/16 8R/7M/5F BFP 5/12/16 We said goodbye to flutter on 5/27 and poprock on 5/28 BFP 8/30/16 We said goodbye to Samuel 10/3 (Trisomy 16) Moving on to Donor Embryos BFP 12/20/16 We said goodbye to Turtle 12/30
How much pain is normal during your cycle? Some months during my period, I have severe pain when trying to go to the bathroom (TMI- but specifically to poop). It feels like a sharp pain, like something is pushing against my intestines or colon.
This is what I was asking about in my earlier endo question. Pain during sex and pain from passing stool are symptoms of endometriosis. I'm not saying that you have it (only surgery can diagnose you), but this is what leads my RE to think I may have it. I don't have pain during sex, however. I'm really localized to just my intestines and bladder.
I just saw your question, and the pain you described sounds very similar to what I am feeling as well. It really is annoying and painful, and makes the start of CD1 even worse when you know you have that to look forward to. Thanks for the information on endo, although hoping that neither of us have it! I do need to schedule my annual next month, so I'll bring this up to my OB and get her thoughts.
For the people talking about pain, is it a stabbing, throbbing, pricking or some other type of pain.
I get a "pulling" sensation on the left side of my uterus some times. Such as someone has tied a string to the inside of my ute and is tugging on it. It's the weirdest feeling and, although it is not incredibly painful, it is definitely annoying, and happens randomly throughout my cycle. It is VERY different from O pain or cramps. This is just anecdote and I don't know if anyone can relate.
My pain is sharp, completely associated with my bowels, and can be so strong as to take my breath away. It lasts a few seconds then recedes. But comes back in waves.
Another question, does the HSG need to be done prior to ovulation? Or can it be done at any point during your cycle? We were told we have a 3% chance based on the stats so I'm not worried about that.
After bleeding; before ovulation
EDIT: Naria is technically correct. The before ovulation thing is to ensure you aren't pregnant during the procedure. If you are strictly abstaining, then anytime is fine.
Another question, does the HSG need to be done prior to ovulation? Or can it be done at any point during your cycle? We were told we have a 3% chance based on the stats so I'm not worried about that.
Last Edit: Jun 9, 2015 12:37:46 GMT -5 by zombiesquad
Married since 2010 DX w/PCOS in Feb 2011 Five cycles w/Letrozole+TI+IUI BFP w/injects+IUI in 2012 DD born May 2013 NTNP since 2015 Early miscarriage March 2015 TTA April/May BFP June! DS born February 2016
Post by goldenlove3 on Jun 9, 2015 12:37:01 GMT -5
*Loss mentioned*
This is more IF related but I've seen a few related topics here already.
We all know that there's only a 20% chance of conceiving every cycle with good timing. With an unexplained infertility diagnosis, my chances of natural conception are around 5% if not less. After you've had a BFP (whether it results in a loss or a take-home baby), do your chances jump back up to the standard 20% again? Or am I forever cursed with horrible chances because of my diagnosis? I guess I'm just trying to figure out where I am right now trying natural cycles after a loss.
Can someone explain how the siggy challenges work?
Toward the end of each month, we open up a thread to nominate for next month's "theme" for the siggy challenge. After a day or so, the ideas are collected and the 5 or 6 that had the most people suggesting them get put into a poll, which stays up for a few days.
Once it's chosen (sometimes before) people will call "dibs" on a specific thing they want, but really it's not like only one person can have that thing (like TV dads, we have a few duplicates).
Around the end of the month, we start nominating people to "win" the challenge. Same concept as the theme, someone finally wins. Confetti is thrown, we move on to the next challenge.
For the people talking about pain, is it a stabbing, throbbing, pricking or some other type of pain.
I get a "pulling" sensation on the left side of my uterus some times. Such as someone has tied a string to the inside of my ute and is tugging on it. It's the weirdest feeling and, although it is not incredibly painful, it is definitely annoying, and happens randomly throughout my cycle. It is VERY different from O pain or cramps. This is just anecdote and I don't know if anyone can relate.
My pain is sharp, completely associated with my bowels, and can be so strong as to take my breath away. It lasts a few seconds then recedes. But comes back in waves.
Shit, that sounds horrible and completely different. Hopefully you can figure out what it is soon.
Toward the end of each month, we open up a thread to nominate for next month's "theme" for the siggy challenge. After a day or so, the ideas are collected and the 5 or 6 that had the most people suggesting them get put into a poll, which stays up for a few days.
Once it's chosen (sometimes before) people will call "dibs" on a specific thing they want, but really it's not like only one person can have that thing (like TV dads, we have a few duplicates).
Around the end of the month, we start nominating people to "win" the challenge. Same concept as the theme, someone finally wins. Confetti is thrown, we move on to the next challenge.
Number One: Born 06.16.2009 BFP: 01.17.2014 / MC 02.05.2014 BFP: 03.08.2014 / MMC: 05.07.2014 Dx: Partial Molar/GTD. Benched until 01.2015 Number Two: Born 07.22.2016
This is more IF related but I've seen a few related topics here already.
We all know that there's only a 20% chance of conceiving every cycle with good timing. With an unexplained infertility diagnosis, my chances of natural conception are around 5% if not less. After you've had a BFP (whether it results in a loss or a take-home baby), do your chances jump back up to the standard 20% again? Or am I forever cursed with horrible chances because of my diagnosis? I guess I'm just trying to figure out where I am right now trying natural cycles after a loss.
Ubdiagnosed means they don't know why it won't work. So, since they don't know, I don't think any predictor after pregnancy is worth anything. The problem could be something that clears up over time or is permanent. They just don't know.
If I ever get pregnant, I plan to use birth control afterwards. I have no intention of assuming tha my fertility is permanently wrecked with a diagnosis of "unexplained."
My pain is sharp, completely associated with my bowels, and can be so strong as to take my breath away. It lasts a few seconds then recedes. But comes back in waves.
Shit, that sounds horrible and completely different. Hopefully you can figure out what it is soon.
Some days I'm completely convinced that I'm covered in endo and babies are the least of my worries.
Other days I'm like "meh, I don't have any other symptoms. I'm fine."
This is more IF related but I've seen a few related topics here already.
We all know that there's only a 20% chance of conceiving every cycle with good timing. With an unexplained infertility diagnosis, my chances of natural conception are around 5% if not less. After you've had a BFP (whether it results in a loss or a take-home baby), do your chances jump back up to the standard 20% again? Or am I forever cursed with horrible chances because of my diagnosis? I guess I'm just trying to figure out where I am right now trying natural cycles after a loss.
This has just been my experience, but after conceiving DD with a DX of PCOS and after nursing, I noticed I was having more consistent cycles--still rather lengthy, but I was having them. Then we miraculously had a BFP in March that unfortunately resulted in a loss, but my cycle came back. Currently in our first cycle actively trying so I'm hoping for the best. All this to say is the body can be a complete mind fuck and you never know what you're going to go get and when. So we're not starting out seeking help. We'll likely give it our six months (35+) and go from there.
Married since 2010 DX w/PCOS in Feb 2011 Five cycles w/Letrozole+TI+IUI BFP w/injects+IUI in 2012 DD born May 2013 NTNP since 2015 Early miscarriage March 2015 TTA April/May BFP June! DS born February 2016
My DH is really concerned for me. I am trying to tell him it is not that big a deal, but he keeps asking me to go see a dr. This past cycle was 38 days. I have been about 32 days (give or take a day) since Nov 2014. Again, nothing really concerning. I also have really light bleeding. I spot a few days, then have a day or two that require a tampon, but still on the lighter side. When I was on BCP I would have about 4-5 days of bleeding nothing heavy but just more flowy than now. DH has major anxiety (diagnosed). He gets very antsy when he feels stress coming on. TTC has been very stressful for both of us. I feel stressed because he is so anxious. He asked me several times yesterday "If i am ok?". I try to explain to him that cycles can vary for many reasons. But he is adamant that I schedule a dr visit. How can I explain to DH that this is not a big issue?
Back story: DH's anxiety has gotten worse as he gets older (38yrs old, will be 39 this yr) its bad that he makes him self sick. We had to get to the ER several times in the past few months because he thinks he is dying/heart attack. Similar to panic attacks. He will ask about my temps, he will ask how i feel, he will ask about spotting (daily). Proabaly more than any husband out ther would ask about womenly things. This is what caused me to stop temping. I was going nutty with all the questions. I was truly overwhlemed. I sat down with DH to tell him how I felt. But I am not sure he gets how overwhelmed I feel.
Interesting Joy. She doesn't even consume chocolate because it has caffeine in it. But at this point she'll do whatever the RE tells her. I was wondering if it's something I could add to my list of GKU.
I'm not an alarmist nor am I an extremist. I don't believe in cutting out huge swaths of food because someone somewhere thinks that maybe there's an obscure reason to do so. Even pregnant women are allowed up to 300 mg of caffeine/day.
Her friend may have a medical condition where this is necessary for her.
This is not a standard suggestion for all women. Those going through IVF with diagnosed issues should not be looked to for standard TTC restrictions.
My DH is really concerned for me. I am trying to tell him it is not that big a deal, but he keeps asking me to go see a dr. This past cycle was 38 days. I have been about 32 days (give or take a day) since Nov 2014. Again, nothing really concerning. I also have really light bleeding. I spot a few days, then have a day or two that require a tampon, but still on the lighter side. When I was on BCP I would have about 4-5 days of bleeding nothing heavy but just more flowy than now. DH has major anxiety (diagnosed). He gets very antsy when he feels stress coming on. TTC has been very stressful for both of us. I feel stressed because he is so anxious. He asked me several times yesterday "If i am ok?". I try to explain to him that cycles can vary for many reasons. But he is adamant that I schedule a dr visit. How can I explain to DH that this is not a big issue?
oh my! Is your husband on medication or seeing a therapist? Both in conjunction with each other might help him a lot!
My periods are similar to yours. On bcp, they lasted for days and without they are very manageable (spotting + light flow for 1-2 days + spotting).
I would maybe get your husband to focus on ovulation rather than blood. Ovulation gets you pregnant and you need to do it regularly. Length of period and amount of blood per day really isn't telling you anything about pregnancy - ovulation is where it's at.
Would that give him something else to obsess about instead, though?
My DH is really concerned for me. I am trying to tell him it is not that big a deal, but he keeps asking me to go see a dr. This past cycle was 38 days. I have been about 32 days (give or take a day) since Nov 2014. Again, nothing really concerning. I also have really light bleeding. I spot a few days, then have a day or two that require a tampon, but still on the lighter side. When I was on BCP I would have about 4-5 days of bleeding nothing heavy but just more flowy than now. DH has major anxiety (diagnosed). He gets very antsy when he feels stress coming on. TTC has been very stressful for both of us. I feel stressed because he is so anxious. He asked me several times yesterday "If i am ok?". I try to explain to him that cycles can vary for many reasons. But he is adamant that I schedule a dr visit. How can I explain to DH that this is not a big issue?
Back story: DH's anxiety has gotten worse as he gets older (38yrs old, will be 39 this yr) its bad that he makes him self sick. We had to get to the ER several times in the past few months because he thinks he is dying/heart attack. Similar to panic attacks. He will ask about my temps, he will ask how i feel, he will ask about spotting (daily). Proabaly more than any husband out ther would ask about womenly things. This is what caused me to stop temping. I was going nutty with all the questions. I was truly overwhlemed. I sat down with DH to tell him how I felt. But I am not sure he gets how overwhelmed I feel.
Sorry for the rant. TTA for your support.
Would he be up for doing the Fertility Friend tutorials? That might help him understand that bodies are weird and sometimes do silly things.
5 years TTC 2 c/p's 2 failed IUIs/1 cancelled IVF 1 failed IVF 1 failed FET BFP 12/1/15. We said goodbye to Tiny 1/4/16 Fresh cycle #3 2/16 8R/7M/5F BFP 5/12/16 We said goodbye to flutter on 5/27 and poprock on 5/28 BFP 8/30/16 We said goodbye to Samuel 10/3 (Trisomy 16) Moving on to Donor Embryos BFP 12/20/16 We said goodbye to Turtle 12/30
I'm not an alarmist nor am I an extremist. I don't believe in cutting out huge swaths of food because someone somewhere thinks that maybe there's an obscure reason to do so. Even pregnant women are allowed up to 300 mg of caffeine/day.
Her friend may have a medical condition where this is necessary for her.
This is not a standard suggestion for all women. Those going through IVF with diagnosed issues should not be looked to for standard TTC restrictions.
This. So much of this
That being said, my RE suggests no more than 200-250mg of caffeine a day.
5 years TTC 2 c/p's 2 failed IUIs/1 cancelled IVF 1 failed IVF 1 failed FET BFP 12/1/15. We said goodbye to Tiny 1/4/16 Fresh cycle #3 2/16 8R/7M/5F BFP 5/12/16 We said goodbye to flutter on 5/27 and poprock on 5/28 BFP 8/30/16 We said goodbye to Samuel 10/3 (Trisomy 16) Moving on to Donor Embryos BFP 12/20/16 We said goodbye to Turtle 12/30
Does anyone get ovulation pain? Yesterday I had sharp pain in the right side of my pelvis after lunch yesterday until bed and now today my temp spiked and CM dried up today. This is more for informational and secondary signs to help me spot O, but would the pain happen the day of O or something different?
I usually can feel some pains on my side, nothing too painful.
My DH is really concerned for me. I am trying to tell him it is not that big a deal, but he keeps asking me to go see a dr. This past cycle was 38 days. I have been about 32 days (give or take a day) since Nov 2014. Again, nothing really concerning. I also have really light bleeding. I spot a few days, then have a day or two that require a tampon, but still on the lighter side. When I was on BCP I would have about 4-5 days of bleeding nothing heavy but just more flowy than now. DH has major anxiety (diagnosed). He gets very antsy when he feels stress coming on. TTC has been very stressful for both of us. I feel stressed because he is so anxious. He asked me several times yesterday "If i am ok?". I try to explain to him that cycles can vary for many reasons. But he is adamant that I schedule a dr visit. How can I explain to DH that this is not a big issue?
Back story: DH's anxiety has gotten worse as he gets older (38yrs old, will be 39 this yr) its bad that he makes him self sick. We had to get to the ER several times in the past few months because he thinks he is dying/heart attack. Similar to panic attacks. He will ask about my temps, he will ask how i feel, he will ask about spotting (daily). Proabaly more than any husband out ther would ask about womenly things. This is what caused me to stop temping. I was going nutty with all the questions. I was truly overwhlemed. I sat down with DH to tell him how I felt. But I am not sure he gets how overwhelmed I feel.
Sorry for the rant. TTA for your support.
It sounds to me like he is the one who needs to go to the doctor. I understand his anxiety is diagnosed, but is it being treated?
I think you're completely in the right for not being concerned about your cycle length. I wonder if I would even continue answering questions about your cycle at all, though that may be harsh.
I would insist on a return visit to the doctor for him. I'm sorry this is so stressful for you both.
Post by shadesofgold on Jun 9, 2015 13:03:55 GMT -5
Just a general poll: How early do you start using your OPKs? As soon as you see fertile CM? A couple of days before your average or last cycle's O day? Are you an OPK conservationist, or do you pee on a stick every trip to the bathroom? I ended up peeing on OPKs for 11 days (twice a day) last cycle because I started when I got fertile CM (CD 11) but didn't O until CD 22. It felt ridiculous.
Just a general poll: How early do you start using your OPKs? As soon as you see fertile CM? A couple of days before your average or last cycle's O day? Are you an OPK conservationist, or do you pee on a stick every trip to the bathroom? I ended up peeing on OPKs for 11 days (twice a day) last cycle because I started when I got fertile CM (CD 11) but didn't O until CD 22. It felt ridiculous.
Before meds, I would sometimes ovulate as early as CD 11 (latest CD 14). I typically started OPKs around CD 9 - CD 10. I'd only do it once a day around 1:00 p.m. because that was the only time when I would get a positive.
My DH is really concerned for me. I am trying to tell him it is not that big a deal, but he keeps asking me to go see a dr. This past cycle was 38 days. I have been about 32 days (give or take a day) since Nov 2014. Again, nothing really concerning. I also have really light bleeding. I spot a few days, then have a day or two that require a tampon, but still on the lighter side. When I was on BCP I would have about 4-5 days of bleeding nothing heavy but just more flowy than now. DH has major anxiety (diagnosed). He gets very antsy when he feels stress coming on. TTC has been very stressful for both of us. I feel stressed because he is so anxious. He asked me several times yesterday "If i am ok?". I try to explain to him that cycles can vary for many reasons. But he is adamant that I schedule a dr visit. How can I explain to DH that this is not a big issue?
Back story: DH's anxiety has gotten worse as he gets older (38yrs old, will be 39 this yr) its bad that he makes him self sick. We had to get to the ER several times in the past few months because he thinks he is dying/heart attack. Similar to panic attacks. He will ask about my temps, he will ask how i feel, he will ask about spotting (daily). Proabaly more than any husband out ther would ask about womenly things. This is what caused me to stop temping. I was going nutty with all the questions. I was truly overwhlemed. I sat down with DH to tell him how I felt. But I am not sure he gets how overwhelmed I feel.
Sorry for the rant. TTA for your support.
It sounds to me like he is the one who needs to go to the doctor. I understand his anxiety is diagnosed, but is it being treated?
I think you're completely in the right for not being concerned about your cycle length. I wonder if I would even continue answering questions about your cycle at all, though that may be harsh.
I would insist on a return visit to the doctor for him. I'm sorry this is so stressful for you both.
That sounds really serious. I agree with PP that this is more about him than it is about you. If he gets so anxious about your periods, I'd be even more worried how he'll deal when you get pregnant! I agree you should get him to a doctor if he isn't already. If you have an annual exam or other doctor's visit coming up, it might also help if he can be in the room as your doctor explains that longer periods can be completely normal. That won't relieve his anxiety generally, but it may help with this specific piece.
I'm just curious on what the science behind the "year" mark is. I have seen in mentioned here and in other books/articles etc., but I haven't seen yet what the reasoning behind the year mark is. Is it because statistically after the 1 year mark indicates fertility problems? If you are over 35, then, is 6 months the recommended time because you simply have less time to get pregnant so they want to see you sooner in case there is an issue?
I'm not linking to the article I pulled this from (on TD) but you can chase it back to the original study if you want I've seen several studies along these lines.
One study, published in the journal Human Reproduction, followed women who were trying to get pregnant by having sex at the time in their monthly cycle when they were believed to be most fertile. Of the 346 women in the study, 310 conceived in the first year. The breakdown was like this:
38 percent were pregnant after 1 month. 68 percent were pregnant after 3 months. 81 percent were pregnant after 6 months. 92 percent were pregnant after 12 months.
In their conclusion, the researchers wrote, “Most couples conceive within six cycles with timed intercourse.” After a year of trying without conceiving, experts say you should see a fertility specialist.
NariaDreaming, I am so glad you posted this. I've never seen this breakdown, and it puts my mind at ease. This is my 10th cycle, including a loss after our first attempt. I've only just started temping (this is my second cycle). This gives me so much hope!
I'm not linking to the article I pulled this from (on TD) but you can chase it back to the original study if you want I've seen several studies along these lines.
One study, published in the journal Human Reproduction, followed women who were trying to get pregnant by having sex at the time in their monthly cycle when they were believed to be most fertile. Of the 346 women in the study, 310 conceived in the first year. The breakdown was like this:
38 percent were pregnant after 1 month. 68 percent were pregnant after 3 months. 81 percent were pregnant after 6 months. 92 percent were pregnant after 12 months.
In their conclusion, the researchers wrote, “Most couples conceive within six cycles with timed intercourse.” After a year of trying without conceiving, experts say you should see a fertility specialist.
NariaDreaming, I am so glad you posted this. I've never seen this breakdown, and it puts my mind at ease. This is my 10th cycle, including a loss after our first attempt. I've only just started temping (this is my second cycle). This gives me so much hope!
5 years TTC 2 c/p's 2 failed IUIs/1 cancelled IVF 1 failed IVF 1 failed FET BFP 12/1/15. We said goodbye to Tiny 1/4/16 Fresh cycle #3 2/16 8R/7M/5F BFP 5/12/16 We said goodbye to flutter on 5/27 and poprock on 5/28 BFP 8/30/16 We said goodbye to Samuel 10/3 (Trisomy 16) Moving on to Donor Embryos BFP 12/20/16 We said goodbye to Turtle 12/30
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