Post by nursemommy13 on Jun 28, 2015 22:39:39 GMT -5
Yes, M has an iPad. But we do so much more than that. We play outside a lot of the day. We play babies and we read books and sing and dance. I would say she probably uses her iPad about an hour a day, but not every day. Usually on days she goes to school or to her dad's house, she's too excited to be home with her toys to want it. It usually comes along to entertain her when we have to wait for dinner or something like that.
Post by heelibrarian on Jun 28, 2015 22:52:22 GMT -5
2nd kid, y'all. I do the best I can. She watches tv with her brother in the morning so I can shotgun 2-3 cups of coffee in order to cope with my day. Sometimes she pays attention, others not. Does Ds watch more tv than i want him to? Yes. But i also need DD to nap. So. There are a lot of things to feel guilty about, but again, all I can do is my best (to preserve my sanity).
I plan to always limit his time. I think it becomes a bigger issue as kids get older. I dont want him to be a kid that plays video games 8 hours a day. I dont have a problem with him using the ipad or my iphone now. I do prefer for him to use the ipad bc i shut the wifi and it isnt connected through a provider. I limit his time.
TV is limited too. He usually gets to watch a cartoon two or three times a day. The shows range from 12-25 minutes. I put the tv on after breakfast so i can catch up on dishes unless we have some place to be. Then sometimes after dinner or before his nap. Depends on the day.
Im not worried at this point. He still prefers to play with his toys, play sports, do puzzles etc. He loves to learn. I think hes a smart little guy and he has an excellent memory. I dont see him having any issues listed above.
2nd kid, y'all. I do the best I can. She watches tv with her brother in the morning so I can shotgun 2-3 cups of coffee in order to cope with my day. Sometimes she pays attention, others not. Does Ds watch more tv than i want him to? Yes. But i also need DD to nap. So. There are a lot of things to feel guilty about, but again, all I can do is my best (to preserve my sanity).
Do 12 year olds play grand theft auto? Isn't that for older people?
I know someone thats been letting their kid play that for a few years and hes 6 or 7 now. Yep. ETA and he gets in trouble in school for cursing. (LOTS of cursing in that game)
First of all, this doesn't even take in to account the technology that our children will be using in school for pretty amazing educational experiences. So even if you ban all hand held devices at home (which we don't in our house)- I'm handing 3-year-olds tablets at our early learning center. Why? Because the teacher can't be by every student's side at every second. So giving half the class tablets for enrichment or remediation lets that teacher work with less students in a more meaningful way.
I feel like this study assumes that parents are using technology in place of everything else- and I agree that would be a problem. But I think completely avoiding technology puts your kid at a disadvantage. We live in a world where the girl at Dairy Queen is using an iPad to take orders- no matter what these kids do in the future, they will be using technology to do it. Banning it until 12 seems like we are giving them a pretty hefty late start.
Post by cynthia2007 on Jun 29, 2015 7:00:18 GMT -5
This is definitely stupid. While I do agree you should not have your kids watching hours of TV or playing games, technology is used everywhere and will be used in their education. Look at programs like ABC mouse used by millions. And there are so many apps that are educational. My 2 yr old can identify almost every letter bc of daycare, me at home writing on doodle board and one of her apps on my phone. I do understand the developmental delay could be caused if a parent puts their kid in front of TV All day EVERYDAY. My friends sister has a daughter who is a few months older than A and does nothing but run around and scream. No words, animal sounds etc but she watches tv all day
Post by huckleberry08 on Jun 29, 2015 7:13:56 GMT -5
cynthia2007 In my experience, most parents of children with significant language and social delays desperately want to interact with their kids by talking, singing, playing, and going out. But their children have a very hard time participating in those things or reciprocating that social attention. What their children ARE drawn towards is technology, so tired parents who have tried everything let their kids watch a ton of television because they genuinely don't know what else to do.
Young kids do not learn very well from screen time and they need adult interaction. A kid can watch Sesame Street all day long but not learn how to use a crayon or scissors without human contact. But most true delays or disorders have genetic or medical causes that can also be inherited, as can psychiatric disorders, and nowhere does this list talk about those highly heritable parent characeristics that contribute to things like too much unsupervised screen time.
anyway, sorry for the rant. Again, lists like this really piss me off. There are so many genuine reasons to limit screen time that don't have to do with any of this.
Post by cynthia2007 on Jun 29, 2015 7:23:56 GMT -5
huckleberry08, I agree with you. Unfortunately the child I'm referencing is not bc the parents are trying. Mother is lazy and in denial of anything being wrong and father is not involved which makes me very sad for this little girl. Her sister has talked in depth with me about her concerns and I've seen the interactions or lack of myself
Do 12 year olds play grand theft auto? Isn't that for older people?
I've known 7-8 year olds who play that, along with Assasin's Creed, Call of duty, etc.
I am not okay with that. Do the 7 year olds know that you need to pick up a hooker for more life, then kill her at the end to get your money back? #collegeflashback
I've known 7-8 year olds who play that, along with Assasin's Creed, Call of duty, etc.
I am not okay with that. Do the 7 year olds know that you need to pick up a hooker for more life, then kill her at the end to get your money back? #collegeflashback
Haha I swear the kid that im referencing plays better than most adults. Im not planning to let J play adult type games until hes older. (ETA by older i mean older than 7 or 12.... not just older than he is now) I will probably even try to avoid a lot of them. Hookers!? Haha
To me it all goes back to moderation. And setting up good habits now that will carry forward to adolescence.
Yep. I will say that I do agree with no devices in bedrooms. I think a lot of the problems listed stem more from sleep deprivation than devices themselves.
I will say the the kids I'm seeing in the middle and high school now even at the "top" are reading fewer books than kids even 5 years ago were. They're spending a lot more of their free time playing candy crush and flappy bird when kids 5-10 years ago were reading books or writing notes to each other.
stargazer763, usually the topic of video games comes up when I'm chatting to students who are in trouble.
"So, what do you like to do at home?" "Play video games." "Oh really, what games are your favorites?" ::insert list of all inappropriate games:: "Wow, some of those games are rated M (for mature), how do you get Them?" "My parents buy them."
FFMC: I'm judging the hell out of parents that let their young kids / tweens play those sorts of games. I don't mind them being sold, but seriously? Grand theft auto: it's in the NAME!
FFMC: I'm judging the hell out of parents that let their young kids / tweens play those sorts of games. I don't mind them being sold, but seriously? Grand theft auto: it's in the NAME!
LOL. It's very common, at least around here. I also hear the "it's the same/less violence than the news!"
...that said, my brother was definitely playing Doom when he was 4ish because he saw my dad playing. He also repeated not so adorable phrases from Duke Nukem. My mom didn't approve, but didn't do anything to prevent it either.
In a few cases of specific students, I'm sure their parents find them to be as much of a PITA as we at school do, therefore will buy them anything to keep them quiet in their rooms for lengthy amounts of time.
Handheld devices do not cause developmental delays. I really resent that bullet point in particular.
Eta: Or mental illness. This is a stupid, irresponsible list, even for Huffpost.
Bahaha. Yeah, g is SUPER delayed now that I have given him free access to the iPad to use a calculator and play math games. This point is super ridiculous even to a parent that really limited screen time under 2.
I actually have wondered if I'm inhibiting B's development in regard to technology by limiting him so much. He can't do anything on my phone except lock me out for 15 minutes... He asks to see pictures of his friends and himself, but that's really it. At his age, I was booting from DOS...
DH and I discussed limits to iPad and TV this evening. Just this week DD is starting to request "tee tee, Elmo, la-la-la" (Elmo's song) pretty consistently. On Saturday DH turned it on for her first thing and then when we tried to turn it off she threw a big tantrum.
I guess my goal is not to limit her entirely, but guide her during this young and impressionable stage that 1) not all TV is fun shows she likes (we turn on the news, weather, etc. and she loses focus in ten minutes), and 2) Mom and Dad can decide when to turn it off and you have to be okay with that. Once she can be okay with turning the TV off at our request (which I realize may not happen for a few years), then I'll be okay with lifting limits on TV.
I have a student in third grade who openly told me he's obsessed with the iPad. His parents have strict limits on it during the week because he throws such big fits to turn it off. It's all he thinks about even when it's turned off. I get that and I support their right to limit his use of it since it causes such strife when he gets to use it.
I actually have wondered if I'm inhibiting B's development in regard to technology by limiting him so much. He can't do anything on my phone except lock me out for 15 minutes... He asks to see pictures of his friends and himself, but that's really it. At his age, I was booting from DOS...
I think this with G all the time. We did no screen time at all until 2, and he never touched a smart screen until at least 3. I just started letting him use the iPad and computer a little for math stuff at 4 and he is SO behind his peers with technology. He's also a little behind (or normal I guess) with fine motor and I wonder if we used a little more interactive technology he'd be better? Who knows. He's just totally having trouble "getting" a mouse with hand eye coordination and it's frustrating.
Post by huckleberry08 on Jun 30, 2015 5:13:00 GMT -5
mcbush Nobody would think you were rotting L's brain. Promise.
Right now, all LO wants to do screen-wise is watch truck videos on Youtube kids. He isn't really playing any of his educational games. I have no idea how to handle that beyond deleting Youtube. As funny as it is when he corrects me for calling an excavator a wheel loader, it's not quite the same as counting. Then again, he gets that at school all day.
I was thinking about trying to get LO used to a timer now so we could just set that precedent as he gets older. I got way too much computer time as a teenager becausw the technology was new, and I worked around any of my parents' attempts to structure it. I can't imagine how easily accessible it will be when our LO's are that age.
The original author doesn't consider the positive effects of FaceTime. DD stays in touch with her grandparents and aunt/uncle/cousin regularly thanks to FT. She even hugs and kisses the iPad when they're on the screen.
I know ive said it before but J has learned a ton from apps and certain tv shows. Obviously i also teach him things and read him books but i dont think the apps or tv shows have hurt him at all. Maybe because they were educational games and not just rot your brain games? I dont know. J interacts with people and i dont see any issues that shes mentioned above. He may take a few minutes to warm up to people but so do i.
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