gingerygirl that was out latch issue. I had to squeeze my boob into an almost flat shape that motownthrowdown is referring to to get it in his mouth. My LC called it "the sandwich"
gingerygirl that was out latch issue. I had to squeeze my boob into an almost flat shape that motownthrowdown is referring to to get it in his mouth. My LC called it "the sandwich"
Yep, this. Noah has a shallow latch and this is the only way to make it not hurt and so we can latch on one of the first 5 tries.
gingerygirl that was out latch issue. I had to squeeze my boob into an almost flat shape that motownthrowdown is referring to to get it in his mouth. My LC called it "the sandwich"
Yep, this. Noah has a shallow latch and this is the only way to make it not hurt and so we can latch on one of the first 5 tries.
yeah, I tried that but it makes the nipple completely retract and he doesn't suck strong enough to pull it back out again. He does really well with the nipple shield but I wish we could do away with it.
Post by gingerygirl on Aug 7, 2015 22:04:25 GMT -5
I just pumped for 30 minutes. Wanna know how much I got? 10mL. Ten. No wonder the poor guy is always hungry. Either my pump is crappier than I thought or I am just not a good milk producer. Maybe I'll try making lactation cookies tomorrow?
I just pumped for 30 minutes. Wanna know how much I got? 10mL. Ten. No wonder the poor guy is always hungry. Either my pump is crappier than I thought or I am just not a good milk producer. Maybe I'll try making lactation cookies tomorrow?
The pump is not a good indicator of supply especially if it's not a hospital grade pump...and I'm mobile and don't remember how many days it's been since birth? The best way to boost your supply is to nurse as often as possible. And lots skin to skin time. Supply equals demand!
I just pumped for 30 minutes. Wanna know how much I got? 10mL. Ten. No wonder the poor guy is always hungry. Either my pump is crappier than I thought or I am just not a good milk producer. Maybe I'll try making lactation cookies tomorrow?
The pump is not a good indicator of supply especially if it's not a hospital grade pump...and I'm mobile and don't remember how many days it's been since birth? The best way to boost your supply is to nurse as often as possible. And lots skin to skin time. Supply equals demand!
almost 6 days. I've been pumping frequently per doctors orders and each time I get less and less.
The pump is not a good indicator of supply especially if it's not a hospital grade pump...and I'm mobile and don't remember how many days it's been since birth? The best way to boost your supply is to nurse as often as possible. And lots skin to skin time. Supply equals demand!
almost 6 days. I've been pumping frequently per doctors orders and each time I get less and less.
Have you had your pump checked for fit? Also since it's doctors orders I'd look into renting a hospital grade temporarily...see if you can get a script?
almost 6 days. I've been pumping frequently per doctors orders and each time I get less and less.
Have you had your pump checked for fit? Also since it's doctors orders I'd look into renting a hospital grade temporarily...see if you can get a script?
Anyone know how to keep LO calm enough to latch? Monster gets in too much of a hurry when he smells/sees the boob that he won't latch. He just opens and closes his mouth then bawls because he isn't being fed.
Anyone know how to keep LO calm enough to latch? Monster gets in too much of a hurry when he smells/sees the boob that he won't latch. He just opens and closes his mouth then bawls because he isn't being fed.
Skin to skin on the chest, rub back and the shush in sound or other white noise.
Post by hopefulreturn on Aug 8, 2015 9:26:35 GMT -5
Can we talk spit up? Feeding is going much better for us the past two days, but starting last night my baby has been Spitting/throwing up quite a bit... Sometimes it is even coming out her nose! I think my right side flows a bit too fast for her. Other times I think she falls asleep or stop swallowing and it pools in her mouth . She will often try to swallow back down some of what comes up which leads to me convinced she's not breathing! Anyone else experiencing an increase in this?
hopefulreturn I noticed spitup starting last week. I'm convinced Miles only spits up through his nose. Freaked me out the first time. I just assumed this was due to the formula.
Post by hopefulreturn on Aug 8, 2015 11:37:13 GMT -5
Well we just got through another feedings but I'm free, so I think it just depends on the milk flow and what she's swallowing. I just always end up freaked out with anything that interferes with breathing!
So how do I get LO to nurse longer so she drains the breast and gets the hind milk? She has an extremely powerful suck and can drain one side in 15 minutes. Problem is, she's done a lot after 10-12 min. I noticed I was still leaking after she nursed 7 minutes on each side, even though my breasts were soft, so I decided to pump a bit and got a total of 38 mL more, which is about 1.3 oz. Is this just my flow regulating? I'm worried since she isn't nursing long most of the time, my supply will be reduced. Sometimes she nurses for 20 min on both sides, but that's rare. I want to have enough milk for when she nurses that long. Or maybe nursing every hour for 10 minutes will do it? I have a feeling she's nursing so often bc she isn't getting the hind milk and isn't full.
kaeguri, I'm still learning so maybe not much help. My LC hase only nurse one side at each feeding. That way Monster has to clean it all out, and it helps to stimulate the breast so there is just the amount he needs. Since I am building a stash I then pump the other side, but LO has never asked/indicated that he wanted more than one boob worth.
Well we just got through another feedings but I'm free, so I think it just depends on the milk flow and what she's swallowing. I just always end up freaked out with anything that interferes with breathing!
I have the same problem. He chokes, gasps and milk comes out his nose. He always seems to be ok and goes right back for the nipple, but it freaks me out so much. I was dealing with over supply and have gone down to 1 breast per feeding. It has helped quite a bit.
So how do I get LO to nurse longer so she drains the breast and gets the hind milk? She has an extremely powerful suck and can drain one side in 15 minutes. Problem is, she's done a lot after 10-12 min. I noticed I was still leaking after she nursed 7 minutes on each side, even though my breasts were soft, so I decided to pump a bit and got a total of 38 mL more, which is about 1.3 oz. Is this just my flow regulating? I'm worried since she isn't nursing long most of the time, my supply will be reduced. Sometimes she nurses for 20 min on both sides, but that's rare. I want to have enough milk for when she nurses that long. Or maybe nursing every hour for 10 minutes will do it? I have a feeling she's nursing so often bc she isn't getting the hind milk and isn't full.
A lot of ppl will tell you that there isn't that big a deal anymore when it comes to fore vs hind milk. Right now your body is figuring out that you only have 1 baby to feed. If she appears to be satisfied then I wouldn't worry about it too much. You can block feed...start her on left breast one feeding and if she doesn't finish it, start her on same breast next feeding, and when she's done switch hee to right breast to finish. Then next feeding start right breast again and continue to cycle. It will help you to feel more drained.
Have you had your pump checked for fit? Also since it's doctors orders I'd look into renting a hospital grade temporarily...see if you can get a script?
good idea on both counts. I'll look into it.
I'm pretty sure it took me a good week or more until I was making more than an oz. I suggest the hospital grade pump also. That's what I'm using. My doctor wrote a prescription.
kaeguri, I asked my LC today and she said the first 5 mins of a feeding are fore and the rest is hind. I'm doing one boob per feed and she seems to be satisfied
kaeguri, I asked my LC today and she said the first 5 mins of a feeding are fore and the rest is hind. I'm doing one boob per feed and she seems to be satisfied
Just a small note on this...these is no exact science for how much milk from each boob is fore or hind. It is VERY outdated thinking.
The part of the below article that talks about how its like a hot water faucet is a great analogy...This is why I recommended the block feeding...and kaeguri she's feeding closer together, so she's getting more of the fatty milk.
kaeguri, I asked my LC today and she said the first 5 mins of a feeding are fore and the rest is hind. I'm doing one boob per feed and she seems to be satisfied
Just a small note on this...these is no exact science for how much milk from each boob is fore or hind. It is VERY outdated thinking.
The part of the below article that talks about how its like a hot water faucet is a great analogy...This is why I recommended the block feeding...and kaeguri she's feeding closer together, so she's getting more of the fatty milk.
Post by oopsiedaisies on Aug 8, 2015 21:06:30 GMT -5
kaeguri, kellymom is a favorite resource of mine. I started nursing school with the goal of becoming a LC myself once I graduate. This became a huge passion of mine once I started bf'ing my dd...there is so much misinformation out there that is given to new moms it breaks my heart.
kaeguri, kellymom is a favorite resource of mine. I started nursing school with the goal of becoming a LC myself once I graduate. This became a huge passion of mine once I started bf'ing my dd...there is so much misinformation out there that is given to new moms it breaks my heart.
The LC I talked to told me to hand express or pump the same breast that I nursed from right after to get the hind milk and then feed it to her with a syringe. I'm guessing this isn't necessary then?
kaeguri, kellymom is a favorite resource of mine. I started nursing school with the goal of becoming a LC myself once I graduate. This became a huge passion of mine once I started bf'ing my dd...there is so much misinformation out there that is given to new moms it breaks my heart.
The LC I talked to told me to hand express or pump the same breast that I nursed from right after to get the hind milk and then feed it to her with a syringe. I'm guessing this isn't necessary then?
If she is only taking one breast at a time already, no I wouldn't be doing that extra work. You've got enough on your plate as it is. Just start her off from that breast for the next feed til she seems done, and then switch breasts and do the same thing.
kaeguri, kellymom is a favorite resource of mine. I started nursing school with the goal of becoming a LC myself once I graduate. This became a huge passion of mine once I started bf'ing my dd...there is so much misinformation out there that is given to new moms it breaks my heart.
The LC I talked to told me to hand express or pump the same breast that I nursed from right after to get the hind milk and then feed it to her with a syringe. I'm guessing this isn't necessary then?
The hell with that. I'd be doing nothing but tending to my boobs all day. No thanks.
Post by oopsiedaisies on Aug 8, 2015 21:20:00 GMT -5
The highlighted part kaeguri for you. You said she was feeding every 1.5 hours, so her feedings were closer together, meaning that she is getting the higher fat milk. They used to tell women to switch boobs after 10 minutes, but this is so outdated...you want baby to finish a breast to get the most of the fattier milk...the constant switching back and forth is not good for baby or the mother's milk supply.
**FROM KELLYMOM.COM** !Now think about the hot water faucet again. If there is a long period of time before the faucet is used again, then you go through the “cold to hot” process once more, but if you turn the water on fairly soon after it was used then the water is either pretty warm or still hot, depending upon how long it’s been since the faucet was last on.This is how it works with mother’s milk too – the longer the time between feedings, the lower the fat content at the beginning of the next feeding. If feedings are closer together, you’re starting off with a higher fat content.
As a particular feeding progresses, fat content increases, milk volume and flow decrease, and milk synthesis speeds up. Because every baby varies in the amount of time it takes him to receive his fill of the higher-fat milk at the end of the feeding, it is important not to switch breasts while baby is actively nursing.
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