Post by holliberry28 on Nov 29, 2015 11:46:52 GMT -5
The last two nights have been pure hell. Friday night we decided he wasn't feeling well so we were up with him every hour from 1:30 on.
Last night decided we'd go back to CIO. He cried for 2 hours straight from 2-4 am. We just kept thinking he'd stop and he just didn't. He fell asleep for 5 minutes before starting again so at that point we got him up, put him in the swing for 45 min until he was up for the day. He slept a total of 4 hours bc we got back home late from our late thanksgiving dinner.
Now since we did CIO to wean him from motn feedings and the pacifier, I have no way of comforting him. He's crying, won't let me rock him, so I have no way to comfort him and it's making me utterly depressed.
I feel so helpless and desperate and worried now we've majorly messed him up because not even CIO works. So what do you do when the last resort method doesn't work?
I'm sorry I'm sitting her crying and constantly being an SS. I feel like a total failure because I Can't comfort my own kid. And he refuses to sleep past 2 am til 7 am.
Post by carolyngrace on Nov 29, 2015 12:28:25 GMT -5
Ouch, some rough nights happening. Sorry ladies
holliberry28, What about going back to some MOTN feedings? Does that feel like going backwards? You should do what you feel in your gut is best. Kind of like we all did in the newborn phase. Things won't always be like they are now, so if you have to resume some feedings, co-sleep, swing-sleep, etc... it's OK. Also have you tried tylenol before bed? Maybe you're right he's not feeling well and that will help. Hope things change soon.
Post by holliberry28 on Nov 29, 2015 13:05:11 GMT -5
Thanks budders and carolyngrace... I'm gonna go back to one motn feeding and possibly the pacifier... I'd rather wake up for 10-15 min a few times then have the poor baby cry for so long.
We've given Tylenol a few times before bed which seemed to help some of the time.... Never gave a dose in the motn because seemed useless by then as it would take 30 min to kick in.
Ali will be 6 months on dec 1st and I feel like she started the growth spurt early. She was up hungry every 2 hours last night and is sleeping a lot today.
Post by silv3rlining on Nov 29, 2015 21:34:25 GMT -5
Tonight isn't looking promising...small dose of Tylenol before bed. She went down "easy. " however 3 goes on and she's wooden at least twice (once a binky was sufficient and once she needed the boob).
As soon as I laid down and closed my eyes I hear DD cough several times and woke himself up - that was an hour ago. He is still up and every time he quiets down and I start to drift off he ramps back up again, its like a cruel game. Meanwhile DH is passed out cold beside me, I want to kick him in his dumb sleeping face.
Whenever we have an early wake up like this it pretty much guarantees a horrible night And nights are rough around here anyway so Im already running on fumes.....
Thanks budders and carolyngrace... I'm gonna go back to one motn feeding and possibly the pacifier... I'd rather wake up for 10-15 min a few times then have the poor baby cry for so long.
We've given Tylenol a few times before bed which seemed to help some of the time.... Never gave a dose in the motn because seemed useless by then as it would take 30 min to kick in.
Advil's ibuprofen, right? My pedi told me not until after 6 months.
She woke up at 11:30 and nursed/fell asleep quickly...or so I thought. We've been up since then. She played for awhile in the pnp but wouldn't fall asleep after rocking or swinging or bouncing, so I'm trying to nurse to sleep again. At least I got to see my birthday roll in at midnight?
I just can't handle these nights getting worse. He isn't asleep yet. It's 130am and he hasn't gone down yet, he shuffles around, screams to be on the boob n then fusses and bites (!) To make it even better H decided to get drunk & tell me how he thinks our kid has a motor delay b/c he's not "doing anything" yet & then passed out. I just can't. Educate yourself. When is this going to start getting better?
I'm sorry Joolschweets that wasn't cool of your husband to say, although I've been there with my sister too. It sucks.
Happy birthday erbear! Hope you have a great day and some rest.
I hear it gets easier in 2 week intervals. I keep thinking maybe next month?
M fell asleep super early last night at 6:15 and woke up at 12:30. We tried to offer the pacifier twice but he kept waking up, so at 12:30 we changed him, gave him Tylenol and a bottle. Then he slept til 3:30, fussed, spit out the pacifier the 3 attempts I made until I put him in the swing and he slept from 4-5:30. Problem is, I was so messed up from the CIO the night before and so worried about how the night would go, I couldn't fall back asleep after 12:30 feeding. So that was 9:30-12:30 for me for the night.
At least I know we did everything we could to soothe him, so that makes the lack of sleep worth it. Seriously regret CIO for Matthew because it obviously doesn't work for him at this time.
I just can't handle these nights getting worse. He isn't asleep yet. It's 130am and he hasn't gone down yet, he shuffles around, screams to be on the boob n then fusses and bites (!) To make it even better H decided to get drunk & tell me how he thinks our kid has a motor delay b/c he's not "doing anything" yet & then passed out. I just can't. Educate yourself. When is this going to start getting better?
Not cool of your husband. For what it's worth DS didn't really roll until sometime bw 5.5-6.5 months. He was consistently walking by 10th months. Kids have their own timeframe. If he isn't "doing anything" yet he could just be taking it all in and waiting until he knows for sure he can do it. Very insensitive of YH though.
Also babies are constantly changing. I know from watching DS and even now with LO that physical/mental/development growth definitely affects sleep. Hopefully you'll get a break soon.
Thanks ladies, sympathy appreciated! It was a rough night. Slept at 230, got up at 7. We managed a nap together earlier so i feel a little better and he's quite sunny but lets see later! holliberry28 *hugs* you've been having a rough time with M, I get it, CIO isn't working for us either, he's making himself sick crying. I hope this is just a phase
silv3rlining I tried to explain this to him but dude needs to read a book! O can roll both ways & his head strength is great but he seems to think he should be sitting totally unassisted, crawl & pull himself up. I don't know why he thinks babies do stuff so early. I just want to shake him. Sleep deprivation doesn't help that feeling.
Wouldn't it be great if all babies were consistent my LO can roll both ways but chooses not to most of the time. And she can only sit momentarily unassisted. I like seeing the similarities/differences between DS/LO bur I don't expect her to do things the same as he did. If she did she'd be a lump that could sit with teeth. But she's a wiggle with only tooth buds...
And you're right sleep deprivation doesn't help. I thought people lied about how horrible their kids slept until I had this LO. DS was my trick baby. Sadly I don't get to nap when baby naps to make up for it most of the time though. Cue crummy mood today from lack of sleep and rainy blah outside.
Post by silv3rlining on Dec 1, 2015 11:25:00 GMT -5
@imapenguin LO does best when we typically follow the 2-3-4 schedule as well. But obviously there are still factors that screw with babies night time sleep hopefully it will work well for others. (LOs naps are screwy lately and overnight is rough again, but I know this too shall pass )
This up every 3 hours thing isn't my friend. It never has been. Would like sleep, please. Our 4 month sleep regression has been going on for 3 1/2 weeks and I'm not a fan.
What do you do when your child only naps in a car seat or on you, though? If I put her down, she's wide awake and usually starts crying.
That was DS...sadly until 19.5 months when we transitioned to the toddler bed we napped with him or stayed in nap jail in the car or occasionally got him to take a nap in the swing.
Post by carolyngrace on Dec 1, 2015 19:41:55 GMT -5
I love the idea of 2-3-4 but Oscar still can't hang longer than 2 hours without falling apart. So we're still doing 3 or 4 naps per day. Very rarely he can stay awake 3 hours.
What do you do when your child only naps in a car seat or on you, though? If I put her down, she's wide awake and usually starts crying.
For daytime naps i swaddle her and that helps a lot. I don't leave her unattended swaddled since she rolls now, so I just have her swaddled in whatever room I'm in.
We were doing SO well - LO slept from 8-2:30! Problem is she's been up since then and this is the third time I've tried nursing her to sleep. Come on, kid!
Post by holliberry28 on Dec 2, 2015 5:49:15 GMT -5
Fell asleep early again at 6:20 and slept well to 11:30 when the hourly wakeups started. Gave him a pacifier each time and rubbed his belly and gave him one bottle at 12. Then H put him in the swing from 2:30-4:30 bc he wouldn't stop waking up.
Not sure how I feel about him sleeping in a moving swung for 2 hrs? Bad? He was up for the day at 4:30 and now barely can finish a 4 oz bottle. Teething?
Anyone try the baby Merlin sleep suit? A friend lent me one so we are giving it a go. He passed out while nursing in it immediately...lets see how long this lasts
Someone else was talking about that... Kristykristylee? I think?
holliberry28 how's the no-cry solution going for you? Haven't seen you in here in a few nights so hoping youve been getting some good (or just better) sleep!
Maybe I'm too cynical already but all the authors suggestions make me wanna eye roll. Yes, we put him to sleep early, yes we do a bedtime routine. We don't even pick him up when he cries, just rub his back, so we're apparently on step 4 of 6. The more we respond right away, the more he wakes up. Two nights ago was every hour for the pacifier. We gave him Advil thinking he was teething at his motn feeding but didn't do shit.
Last night let him cry for a few minutes on and off before giving the pacifier and he gave us a 2 hour a 3 hour stretch before being up at 4:45 for the day.
budders, am I missing something from her book? And at the end she says oh yea, write your babies sleep book. I wanted to throw the book across the subway floor.
And she describes the "pantly gentle pull off technique " for bottle feeding, nursing, or pacifier sleep associations where you let them suck for 10 seconds, pull off, repeat until they fall asleep without it. I can't see how they would work- to me it sounds like teasing the fuck out of them, but again, I havent actually tried it so I can't say.
Sorry Joolschweets, you probably got more than you bargained for with my commen haha. How's your LO sleeping?
Post by hannahl201477 on Dec 4, 2015 9:09:46 GMT -5
As anyone else's baby super fidgety(sp?) during the night? Once he wakes up for his first and most of the time last wake up dying the night he just never gets back in a "deep" sleep. Therefor I get very little sleep. Also, last night before I fell asleep I read about new findings about SIDS. Then someone on my timeline had shared a post by a little babies grandfather. The baby was found not breathing Monday or Tuesday and since then been having tests done in hospital. He isn't breathing on his own but DOES have blood flow to his brain but that's about it. I cried and then my anxiety kicked in and I watched Malcolm sleep for a long time.
Post by carolyngrace on Dec 4, 2015 9:46:48 GMT -5
I'm starting night weaning soon. Maybe tonight. Not full weaning, but only feeding if it's been 4+ hours. I just can't with being up every two-three hours anymore, and he's a big boy. Since we're just getting into food I think it's a good time.
carolyngrace thats where we are too. He can put himself to sleep but is wanting to eat every 2-3 hrs. Like you said he is a good size, eats well during the day and getting into solids so now seems a good time to "night wean" / feed once or twice a night. Let me now if you have any tips when you start C will be 6 months next Friday so Im waiting to get the go ahead from the pedi at his check up. Good luck!
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