Let's start a new sleep thread!

[beersandweirs]

Dec 17, 2015 21:27:36 GMT -5 carolyngrace said:

Well, it took 3 rounds of picking up and then CIO but he fell back asleep. 45 minutes total.

I really hope he doesn't wake up in an hour needing the same thing.

And also, if I feed him "once in a while" when he wakes won't he always be confused and protest longer falling back asleep? It almost feels like full night weaning would be less confusing. But I'm worried he still needs it.. I guess I could always pick up and walk him first, and only feed if he gives hunger cues?

Since we started sleep training, we always said we won't feed her unless it's been 6 hours since her last meal, otherwise we soothe her in another way. Typically if it isn't a feeding time, I send in husband so she doesn't want to nurse. But honestly after doing it consistently we almost never have to send husband in there and I usually just go in around 2am to feed her. I would say stick with your 5 hour rule and be consistent and I would imagine things will fall into place.

ETA: we only wait 6 hours to feed her MOTN, then I don't feed her again until 6am or later.

[erbear]

It took over an hour to get her to sleep tonight and she was up two hours later. Argh.

[jessila]

O went down easily. We've essentially been weaning his first wake up this week without labeling it. DH has been in charge of the baby until around 12. Tonight DH is at the movies to see Star Wars. O was asleep at 8, I went to sleep at 945, then I woke at 12 and panicked bc O had been asleep the whole time. So I thought I'd sneak in, feed him, and he'd stay asleep. He stayed asleep until I put him back down. Now he's rolling around and smiling at me in the monitor. Hopefully he goes back to sleep soon.

[erbear]

Yeah, she's been up since 11:45. H took her for an hour and a half in the swing while I got some sleep but I'm up nursing again and praying she goes down.

[wegrowsheep]

He went down at 9, and was up at 10, screaming bloody murder. And no DH to pass him off to tonight. I sang his song (I Love You Too Much, in case you were wondering)and danced with him a little, but he wouldn't relax at all. I changed him. I hate it when he gets like this. Screaming that loud freaks me out. I caved and fed him (it had been less than 2 hrs). Then he cried again, after restless sleeping for 30 minutes. He's asleep on my legs now, with his pj's unzipped because I was rubbing his tummy. Pretty sure if I move, he'll scream again.

This night will never end.

[seannemairi]

I think we have a stomach bug on our hands. She's been up for about an hour now. Woke herself up choking on projectile vomit. Almost got her back to sleep then she had diarrhea and blew out on sleeper #2. Then while I was snapping sleeper #2 she started puking more. A LOT more. I held her facing her changing pad while she just let loose. Now she's in sleep #3 and we're belly to belly in my bed hoping she'll get some rest. She was in good spirits though, I will give her that. The vomit didnt scare her or upset her. She just smiled and started chit chatting. To top it all off we're on day 8 of a cold. Not a really terrible one, but she's still very snotty and congested. Fucking daycare.

[carolyngrace]

Dec 17, 2015 22:41:37 GMT -5 beersandweirs said:

Dec 17, 2015 21:27:36 GMT -5 carolyngrace said:

Well, it took 3 rounds of picking up and then CIO but he fell back asleep. 45 minutes total.

I really hope he doesn't wake up in an hour needing the same thing.

And also, if I feed him "once in a while" when he wakes won't he always be confused and protest longer falling back asleep? It almost feels like full night weaning would be less confusing. But I'm worried he still needs it.. I guess I could always pick up and walk him first, and only feed if he gives hunger cues?

Since we started sleep training, we always said we won't feed her unless it's been 6 hours since her last meal, otherwise we soothe her in another way. Typically if it isn't a feeding time, I send in husband so she doesn't want to nurse. But honestly after doing it consistently we almost never have to send husband in there and I usually just go in around 2am to feed her. I would say stick with your 5 hour rule and be consistent and I would imagine things will fall into place.

ETA: we only wait 6 hours to feed her MOTN, then I don't feed her again until 6am or later.

Yes, I think you're right. We just need to focus on that first stretch for now. Do you wake her up around 2am when you go in? Or does she typically wake up around then? 

After waking up at 9ish (and going back down without eating) he is now still sleeping! 2:45am! So I just pumped because the last time I woke him up to eat and then he was up every 2 hours. I'm resisting the urge to peek in and make sure he's alive

[wegrowsheep]

More screaming. More eating. Haven't slept yet.

[wegrowsheep]

Dec 18, 2015 2:10:43 GMT -5 seannemairi said:

I think we have a stomach bug on our hands. She's been up for about an hour now. Woke herself up choking on projectile vomit. Almost got her back to sleep then she had diarrhea and blew out on sleeper #2. Then while I was snapping sleeper #2 she started puking more. A LOT more. I held her facing her changing pad while she just let loose. Now she's in sleep #3 and we're belly to belly in my bed hoping she'll get some rest. She was in good spirits though, I will give her that. The vomit didnt scare her or upset her. She just smiled and started chit chatting. To top it all off we're on day 8 of a cold. Not a really terrible one, but she's still very snotty and congested. Fucking daycare.

Hugs. Just keep the washer going, and sleep on towels.

[carolyngrace]

Dec 18, 2015 3:01:45 GMT -5 wegrowsheep said:

More screaming. More eating. Haven't slept yet.

[wegrowsheep]

Dec 18, 2015 3:03:55 GMT -5 carolyngrace said:

Dec 18, 2015 3:01:45 GMT -5 wegrowsheep said:

More screaming. More eating. Haven't slept yet.

Life would be so much easier if he would just fart...

[holliberry28]

Dec 17, 2015 21:27:36 GMT -5 carolyngrace said:

Well, it took 3 rounds of picking up and then CIO but he fell back asleep. 45 minutes total.

I really hope he doesn't wake up in an hour needing the same thing.

And also, if I feed him "once in a while" when he wakes won't he always be confused and protest longer falling back asleep? It almost feels like full night weaning would be less confusing. But I'm worried he still needs it.. I guess I could always pick up and walk him first, and only feed if he gives hunger cues?

He really doesn't need to eat anymore at this age, even though he may be hungry. My ped says he'll learn not to be hungry after a few nights by totally cutting out the feedings completely. That's what we had to do with the pacifier. When we gave it to him at night to soothe, we had hourly wakeups. When we dropped it cold turkey, it took a day or two, and went back to sleeping 7pm-5am, usually 4:45.

My only problem is him being a rooster and waking up between 4:45-5:15 every day. CIO when he's awake at that time just seems so harsh.

But yea, Ferber's CIO with 5-10 min checks was the only thing that worked for us. It's better for me too because I can't go in, tell him I love him, and it's time for sleeping.

[beersandweirs]

carolyngrace I don't wake her up, that is usually around the time she wakes up to eat. She has STTN like twice (in her life) but I can totally deal with the one feeding a night until she decides she doesn't need it. She doesn't eat a ton when she is at the nanny's so I feel better about holding on to one feeding as well.

I didn't bother to pump when I cut down on her night feedings from many (honestly not sure how many it was, it was just like so frequent) to one, and my supply seems fine and I wasn't engorged either. I think if you are going to stick with one night feeding, you may want to eventually drop pumping too, so that you are able to sleep just like baby!

[holliberry28]

Dec 18, 2015 9:55:19 GMT -5 budders said:

I am so torn on the night feeding. I don't think V eats enough at daycare, and we don't have enough time in the evening to "fill him up", and when I do feed him at night it's a solid 20 minutes, so he is hungry. However, it would be really nice to get him away from that. I am in survival mode now because being up all night with him trying to break him from the desire to eat is much worse to me than waking 1-2x for 20 minutes apiece to feed him when I have to work the next day, but I am considering using the school break to try stretching out his feedings.

Have you started supplementing with formula yet? I only ask because I think I read you considering to.  Maybe once you start that, those bottles will help him take in more daytime oz?

[wegrowsheep]

2:10, 4:30, and 6:30 wakeups, to round out the night.

Listening to the rooster crow...

[silv3rlining]

budders if it's any consolation my understanding is that nursing at night (needing to eat rather yet) isn't a habit until closer to 9 months. I know when babies go through growth spurts (physical and developmental) that they will often need to eat MOTN. It's possible V just isn't ready to night wean. I currently don't have any plans to night wean LO. If she were waking at the exact same time every night I might think it was more of a habit though and possibly try to space it. Hope the supplementing helps but if not do what you gotta do

[carolyngrace]

beersandweirs, Oh, I'm DEFINITELY stopping the night pumping. I just did it because that's the longest I've ever gone without feeding at night so I was engorged. But my body seems to regulate quickly, so I bet I won't need to, even tonight...

budders, I feel like Oscar was really eating, too, until a couple of weeks ago. He would vigorously nurse for 20 minutes like you're saying. But then it turned into just a few minutes of light sucking. You'll know when it's time, I think.

[erbear]

Before we went to bed, H was all, "she's going to let us sleep tonight!@

We've been up since 10 pm. Lol lol lol lol lol, H.

Eta another Lol lol lol lol lol to her doctor. "She'll fall asleep on her own!" Mmm, nope. Not even close.

[wegrowsheep]

Okay, my evening. The 1.5 yo was asleep first, followed by the 4 mo. T went down for about 40 minutes, then was awakened by his noisy siblings. The oldest crawled into her parents' bed and fell asleep roughly an hour later (she was originally on the floor in a sleeping bag). The 3 yo old came out of the same room complaining about an itchy bottom. Apparently she wasn't done pooping, so I wiped her (again) and changed her underpants and sent her back to bed, even though she was "hungry" (a known evasion tactic). DD (6 yo) and 5 yo cousin were assigned sleeping bags in the toy room. They are also the resident extroverts. Cue ALL THE GIGGLES. But cousin is asleep. DD still "trying." DS1 on top bunk, almost asleep. DH took T and rocked him to sleep, and is now passed out on my bed with T. I am hanging out with the cat, occasionally replacing 4 mo's pacifier.

[mrsmonogrammed]

Dec 19, 2015 2:16:32 GMT -5 wegrowsheep said:

Okay, my evening. The 1.5 yo was asleep first, followed by the 4 mo. T went down for about 40 minutes, then was awakened by his noisy siblings. The oldest crawled into her parents' bed and fell asleep roughly an hour later (she was originally on the floor in a sleeping bag). The 3 yo old came out of the same room complaining about an itchy bottom. Apparently she wasn't done pooping, so I wiped her (again) and changed her underpants and sent her back to bed, even though she was "hungry" (a known evasion tactic). DD (6 yo) and 5 yo cousin were assigned sleeping bags in the toy room. They are also the resident extroverts. Cue ALL THE GIGGLES. But cousin is asleep. DD still "trying." DS1 on top bunk, almost asleep. DH took T and rocked him to sleep, and is now passed out on my bed with T. I am hanging out with the cat, occasionally replacing 4 mo's pacifier.

You go girl.

[dogmama22]

Random question that's somewhat sleep related, so I'll post here. Does anyone have a video monitor that they love? I never registered for a monitor because I thought it was unnecessary, but it turns out even though our house is small, I still have a hard time hearing LO. We're starting to think about transitioning him to his own bed because ours is unsafe now that he's becoming mobile. It makes me super sad, so I think being able to see him will help some. I've been on Amazon the past couple of days and everything has such mixed reviews, so I think the most important things for me are having good night vision, around $100, and not disrupting WiFi. Bonus points for links to Amazon.

[Deleted]

Dec 20, 2015 12:31:04 GMT -5 dogmama22 said:

Random question that's somewhat sleep related, so I'll post here. Does anyone have a video monitor that they love? I never registered for a monitor because I thought it was unnecessary, but it turns out even though our house is small, I still have a hard time hearing LO. We're starting to think about transitioning him to his own bed because ours is unsafe now that he's becoming mobile. It makes me super sad, so I think being able to see him will help some. I've been on Amazon the past couple of days and everything has such mixed reviews, so I think the most important things for me are having good night vision, around $100, and not disrupting WiFi. Bonus points for links to Amazon.

I'll tell you what video monitor not to buy. The Samsung baby monitor. It's expensive and it makes a loud ringing noise everytime you turn it on. It also loses power if not plugged into an outlet with an hour or so.

[holliberry28]

Dec 20, 2015 12:31:04 GMT -5 dogmama22 said:

Random question that's somewhat sleep related, so I'll post here. Does anyone have a video monitor that they love? I never registered for a monitor because I thought it was unnecessary, but it turns out even though our house is small, I still have a hard time hearing LO. We're starting to think about transitioning him to his own bed because ours is unsafe now that he's becoming mobile. It makes me super sad, so I think being able to see him will help some. I've been on Amazon the past couple of days and everything has such mixed reviews, so I think the most important things for me are having good night vision, around $100, and not disrupting WiFi. Bonus points for links to Amazon.

We have the Motorola and love it.

[erbear]

We love our Motorola!

[dogmama22]

I polled in a Facebook group as well and found out that Motorola has a pet video monitor with most of the same features as the baby monitor and two cameras for $80. Since you all say Motorolas work well, I think that's what we'll go with! Thanks everyone

[musicfrk2002]

I really shouldn't be allowed to complain here tonight, but I'm going to anyways. H has been up puking his guts out all night, and J decided 4 am was a good time to want to play. So much for not lifting over 10 lbs.

[mcp6286]

carolyngrace we're doing night weaning as part of our sleep training this weekend! We put LO down awake and she has to put herself to sleep, then we won't feed her till she's been sleeping at least 5 hours, then she has to sleep till morning without a feed. The first night was rough (6 wake ups and during the third wake up she cried for an hour) but last night she did great (two wake ups, only cried 22 mins at bedtime). I'm so glad our dr suggested we do this method! It was hard but worth it. We got our first stretch of more than 2 hours since early Oct last night!!!

[carolyngrace]

Dec 21, 2015 8:15:55 GMT -5 mcp6286 said:

carolyngrace we're doing night weaning as part of our sleep training this weekend! We put LO down awake and she has to put herself to sleep, then we won't feed her till she's been sleeping at least 5 hours, then she has to sleep till morning without a feed. The first night was rough (6 wake ups and during the third wake up she cried for an hour) but last night she did great (two wake ups, only cried 22 mins at bedtime). I'm so glad our dr suggested we do this method! It was hard but worth it. We got our first stretch of more than 2 hours since early Oct last night!!!

Awesome! So glad it's working so far.

I've been holding strong about waiting at least 5 hours for the first feed. Usually he wakes up after 3 hours and it's pretty hard getting him back down but we do it.

The hard part for me is subsequent wake ups. So like last night he was up at 9 (no feed), up at 3 (feed, and yay that's a long stretch!) and then up at 5... So I nursed him again because I really wanted a little more sleep and I'm scared he won't go back to sleep without it. But I know I need to commit to one feeding a night. He doesn't need more, and it might be confusing him..

[stinybean]

Go to sleep baby, mommy needs to deal with a class of 5 year Olds on the last day of school before vacation! Humidifier let's do our job and help baby to breath. And lastly white noise owl don't shut off until baby is good and asleep!

[alayne926]

3am here...S decided she needed to wake up to eat. And now we're still up...she's so congested and uncomfortable, I feel like we're going to be up for awhile.