Post by wegrowsheep on Dec 15, 2015 2:00:27 GMT -5
Because T can't possibly be the only one in "hold me for sleep or I'll murder your eardrums" phase. He's currently laying next to me in bed, on top of my right arm. His right hand is on my left boob, just in case. Wouldn't want it to run off.
This will go on all night. And he will eat every 2-3 hrs to ensure his second chin doesn't get smaller.
Post by holliberry28 on Dec 15, 2015 5:59:41 GMT -5
How do you know the difference between sleep crying vs. regular 'ol crying stinybean?
Can we talk naps?? Is anyone on a nap schedule? How many hours to your LOs nap per day? I think my mil is letting him sleep waaaaay too much outside, so he's getting like 5-6 40 min naps with less than 2 hours awake time in between. No Bueno
We're working our way back to sleeping in the crib. He's been in and out of the swing for night time basically since I went back to work in September. He was fine in the crib then suddenly it was a hard no with lots of screaming. Last night was night 4. H now gives him his pacifier if it's before midnight but I've been going to sleep later than I should around 930 instead of 830. We were up at 1230 then 3 and now at 6 I'm up for work. No thank you.
holliberry28 O just started making it to 2 hours between naps and doesn't always get there. He adjusted his own schedule so he usually takes 3 naps. The first ones range from 40 minutes to 2 1/2 hours. The third one is almost always exactly 30 minutes. Sometimes he takes 4 if the first two were short. From what I remember your MIL has a lot of opinions she should keep to herself ;-)
@holliberry when J regular cries it's like a wailing and she's awake. However what I call sleep crying her eyes are closed and she cries with her mouth closed too. It's really weird, but sad.
We're working our way back to sleeping in the crib. He's been in and out of the swing for night time basically since I went back to work in September. He was fine in the crib then suddenly it was a hard no with lots of screaming. Last night was night 4. H now gives him his pacifier if it's before midnight but I've been going to sleep later than I should around 930 instead of 830. We were up at 1230 then 3 and now at 6 I'm up for work. No thank you.
holliberry28 O just started making it to 2 hours between naps and doesn't always get there. He adjusted his own schedule so he usually takes 3 naps. The first ones range from 40 minutes to 2 1/2 hours. The third one is almost always exactly 30 minutes. Sometimes he takes 4 if the first two were short. From what I remember your MIL has a lot of opinions she should keep to herself ;-)
I feel you on the swing love. I don't even know how we got him out of it to be honest with you. We've been doing well ever since we got rid of the pacifier at night, and letting him Cry for no more than 10 minutes before checking in, telling him it's nighttime and we love him and leaving (ferber, again).Trying to do 5-10 min checks in the morning because he's still waking up at 4:45-5 although he's still sleepy and not hungry.
My Mil does have opinions, true, but she helps a shit ton so I can't say too much. I told her to make sure he's awake at least 1 hr 45 min between naps and see if that helps him get longer chunks of nap time. Oh yea, and I'm rereading all my sleep books because I think eventually I'll have a sleep epiphany. I should write my own sleep book a la go the f????Ck to sleep.
Agreed^^ DD was a pretty good sleeper as far as babies go until the awful 4 months started. I've had the occasional good night, but last night wasn't one of them. I started co sleeping with her more at 4 months again as she was doing ok in her crib before that, and I think we are going to have to stop soon, she just doesn't stop moving right now.
Naps are getting better. Currently she's having 2 decent naps a day, and then maybe passes out if we go out for a late afternoon walk. Shes been in her crib for her morning nap since my breakthrough last week, so fingers crossed. I'll probably start working on the afternoon naps and then try for nighttime after that's established. Lucky for me, H starts Christmas break after Friday. It helped DS with the crib transfer when H started doing his night wakings, so it will be nice to try that with DD at some point during the break especially. I may wait until after all our Christmas shenanigans since we'll be travelling and sleeping at other places for a couple days.
Anyway, the best well laid plans never work, so this is the goal and we'll see what we end up doing haha.
Post by hannahl201477 on Dec 15, 2015 11:26:59 GMT -5
The past three nights Mal has been so restless. He has always been a restless sleeper we think bc of his eczema and dry skin. Well for about a week he slept so peacefully. Now the past 3 nights he is restless again but much worse than before. Each night has gotten worse. Last night I eventually just let him be to work it out on his own and that resulted in him screaming (with eyes closed) until it woke DH up then I let him take over bc I was so sleepy and frustrated.
There is a 6 month sleep regression, right? Or is it just the growth spurt? V's patterns recently are feeling very similar to our 8 weeks of hell that were the 4 month regression.
_____ stuck in the box ________
Yes. Both I think. Oscar was back down to 1-2 wakeups and then right around 6 months jumped back up to 3-4... Now it's just a crap shoot. Some nights it's 1, some nights up to 5. I'm so over it.
There is a 6 month sleep regression, right? Or is it just the growth spurt? V's patterns recently are feeling very similar to our 8 weeks of hell that were the 4 month regression.
DD is 6 mos. on Friday and our MOTN wake ups are increasing as well. Even more annoying is her new routine for going to sleep. For the past 3 nights, she wakes up about 3x within 10-30 mins after putting her back to sleep - full on screaming, ragey cries. I thought it was maybe her tummy, but I'm not sure. Anyone else having this?
How is LO going to sleep? Drowsy/awake, nursing to sleep, etc? Could be some early separation anxiety (if LO falls asleep in your arms and wakes to a different "environment") teething could be culprit as well. Or learning a new skill? We periodically have a lot of wakeups in the early night until the house is quieter/she's in a deeper sleep.
Our issue the past few nights has been LO rolling over in her sleep and waking up pissed bc she's on her belly.
We had a good night last night (only two wake ups!) but tonight is off to a rough start. We came up for bed at 9 and LO was awake, having been asleep since 7:30. She did this last night and a quick cuddle and rock put her back to sleep quickly. And sure enough, her eyes closed and she was asleep! Then I put her down and she opened her eyes and smiled this huge smile at me that was like, "haha, sucker!"
We tried to let her cry for five minutes and then soothe her, but H wound up being all, "I think she's hungry." Considering she nursed two hours ago and ate an ounce of sweet potatoes (after nursing, too)...yeah, no. She's comfort nursing now.
Post by carolyngrace on Dec 15, 2015 21:52:45 GMT -5
First night of "night weaning" here... We picked 5 hours as the minimum before I'll feed him. So he just woke up after 3.5 hours and is absolutely losing his shit. I feel awful and want to give in so bad. But I also want the frequent wake ups to stop!!
I don't know how long he will cry though. We did CIO but he never lasted more than 15 minutes. But with that he was tired and had a full belly. Ahhhh!
Post by carolyngrace on Dec 15, 2015 22:31:46 GMT -5
Well, shit guys. DH got Oscar to fall back asleep without eating. And we were all "yay!!" Then he woke up 20 minutes later again. So DH is like "He must ACTUALLY be hungry, just feed him." And of course that little jerk ate for about 2 seconds before falling asleep on my boob. He just wanted the cozy boob sleep.
Tomorrow night I will be stronger.
Also, I have no plans for night weaning past making the first stretch longer. I guess I'll figure out what to do after that if we actually get it to happen.
Post by wegrowsheep on Dec 16, 2015 2:22:27 GMT -5
Ditto on the path of least resistance. I'm thinking this attitude is because I don't work outside the home. Curious George can't do everything, but he can sure parent my 4 yo in the morning.
Well, shit guys. DH got Oscar to fall back asleep without eating. And we were all "yay!!" Then he woke up 20 minutes later again. So DH is like "He must ACTUALLY be hungry, just feed him." And of course that little jerk ate for about 2 seconds before falling asleep on my boob. He just wanted the cozy boob sleep.
Tomorrow night I will be stronger.
Also, I have no plans for night weaning past making the first stretch longer. I guess I'll figure out what to do after that if we actually get it to happen.
Set an alarm for yourself, and wake him to feed, rather than waiting for him to wake. This way you control the feeding times, and he doesn't associate waking (himself) with feeding. Worked with DS1.
MM does 3 or 4 our stretches between feeds from about 8:30 pm to 7:30 am. Her longest stretch is usually from 3 am to 7/730 am... which means I have to get up right in the middle of it to go to work.
I have a friend who has a baby about 3 months younger than ours that apparently routinely sleeps for 10 hours at a time. When someone asked if she sleep trained she was just like "Oh, we just rock and don't talk to her at night so she knows it's time for sleeping!" Oh yeah, duh, why didn't I think of that!
Her time will probably come. V slept through the night (as in my night, not just 6 hours) from about 8 weeks until just around 3 months. We haven't had a decent night since.
exactly this. I had an 8 hour sleeper then bam 4 month wakeful hit and it has not been the same since
We went from 1-2 wake ups to the past week it has been 4-5 wake ups. As crazy as this sounds im taking comfort in the fact that I know what is causing this. She had her first tooth come in last weekend and her second one is breaking through today so I know she is feeling uncomfortable. The Tylenol helps but doesn't cut out the wake ups. F you teeth! Can't you just magically appear?
DH is gone overnight since they had a big job to finish. Tonight E went to bed at 8 and woke up three times before 11. He is still wide awake now at midnight, laying in my bed since he will only cry if I put him in his. I hate this entire day and night. All I want is some alone time before I start it all over again tomorrow.
Sometimes the worst part is you baby sleeps awful for a few nights and you get in the groove of just lying there waiting for the next wakeup and then she has a good night and you just lie there with momsomnia and are awake for no reason at all, even with hours and hours of lost sleep over the last week. Because that's where I'm at right now. I don't understand how my brain can't shut off when all I want to do all day is wait for sleep!
Post by carolyngrace on Dec 17, 2015 8:20:56 GMT -5
I held fast at 5 hours for oscars first feeding of the night. And then gave in and fed him every 2 hours after that because I was tired and we really don't have a plan for that time. Oh, and I was awake the first 5 hours he slept of course. So tired!
Post by carolyngrace on Dec 17, 2015 21:12:18 GMT -5
DB woke up after 3 hours tonight and we're trying to go 5 in-between night feedings. We've been trying to get him back to sleep for a half hour now... He will fall asleep on our shoulder when walked around, but immediately wakes when you put him down. This is new territory for us! He puts himself to sleep just fine for the night but has always nursed back to sleep MOTN. Last time I gave in and nursed him and he barely ate, just wanted comfort.
Post by carolyngrace on Dec 17, 2015 21:27:36 GMT -5
Well, it took 3 rounds of picking up and then CIO but he fell back asleep. 45 minutes total.
I really hope he doesn't wake up in an hour needing the same thing.
And also, if I feed him "once in a while" when he wakes won't he always be confused and protest longer falling back asleep? It almost feels like full night weaning would be less confusing. But I'm worried he still needs it.. I guess I could always pick up and walk him first, and only feed if he gives hunger cues?
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