I'm just not sure if developmentaly they can understand the ramifications. I think how it's implemented depends on age too. Not all teenagers are created alike. A 12 to 14 year old wants FB? Absolutely not. A 15 to 17 year old? Maybe, after they've had extensive lessons on the usage of social media and I get the passwords.
I also have a personal history of issues with the Internet and social media. I became addicted to porn at the age of 11. I wish someone had spent more time talking to me about the dangers of the Internet and the implications of what you put out there. I admit that this probably makes me more sensitive about this topic.
I can see how that would impact your POV. But I don't think there's a one-size fits all approach, and I don't think forbidding SM before a certain age will do any favors. Kids can find a way and if they're hiding it from you, you won't be able to monitor and be there for them like you're talking about.
I don't think it has anything to do with "taking things too seriously" or being "obsessed". Adults might be able to handle dislike buttons, but think of the teenagers who are on FB. They already deal with cyber bullying to an awful extent, I can't imagine what good a dislike button on FB would do. We were a fortunate generation and never had to deal with that type of bullying, so I think sometimes it's hard for us adults to understand how bad it is on the computer for them. I can't tell you how many kids come into my hospital suicidal because of bullying. It's so much worse than when we were kids. And it's not as easy to solve as deactivating and stepping away from the computer.
It's a serious issue. Definitely not something to "lol" at.
FFFC: I'm obviously against the dislike button on FB.
There was a story on This American Life about middle school girls and Instagram, how they analyze everything about each post, how many "likes" they got, who "liked" and who didn't, and on and on. It seems so simple but there is so much nuance to it all, to them at least, and it's such a big part of their social life. I can't imagine how much they would agonize over any "dislikes" they might get. I think the new "like" vs. "love" on FB is bad enough. The kids definitely have it a lot harder than we did.
I heard that episode too! It was SO interesting to me. I can't even imagine growing up with all that.
Post by helloerrbody on Feb 26, 2016 13:31:22 GMT -5
Many schools and teachers are now using social media as a way to engage older students in classroom discussions, etc. I agree that it's scary what kids can do now online and can definitely be dangerous and unhealthy, but I don't think it's reasonable to try to shield them from it altogether. They will find a way to use it or just hate you because of it.
I used to be anti-cellphone for kids who can't drive yet but have changed my mind. I like the idea of a kid having a cellphone at school (or the mall, movies, friend's house, etc.) should there be an emergency.
An acquaintance posted something stupid. It wasn't a huge deal, but petty and stupid. I feel so crappy this week that I gave in and snarked back, even though I know I should have just eaten a snickers and scrolled. I'm honeybadger!icedtea right now apparently.
An acquaintance posted something stupid. It wasn't a huge deal, but petty and stupid. I feel so crappy this week that I gave in and snarked back, even though I know I should have just eaten a snickers and scrolled. I'm honeybadger!icedtea right now apparently.
What did they say? I need more details so that I will know how to feel about this.
It was baby-related, I don't know if that needs some sort of heads up.
**just in case, baby-stuff next**
"Facebook has rolled out their reactions, but I'm still waiting for a 'your baby is ugly' button."
I pointed out it was a rather douchey sentiment. She then went on about how it's not the babies she's angry at, it's all the parents who dare to share things "incessantly." Especially since she doesn't want kids and "doesn't get the fascination." Which, whatever, but it was so "look at me saying this mean thing aren't I cool" and I snapped a bit. It may be a crackers situation too.
I can see how that would impact your POV. But I don't think there's a one-size fits all approach, and I don't think forbidding SM before a certain age will do any favors. Kids can find a way and if they're hiding it from you, you won't be able to monitor and be there for them like you're talking about.
That's just my .02.
Oh I totally get that. And odds are that my thoughts will change if there are ever actual children involved, not hypothetical children.
Basically, I'm terrified that what happened to me will happen to my kids. I could have easily ended up as one of those statistics, the ones who show up dead after meeting with strangers they meant in online chat rooms.
My parents have had some close calls with my nephew. My parents wouldn't let any of us get on the Internet without supervision before high school and they have told my niece and nephew they couldn't have social media accounts before high school. My nephew got on all forms of social media (he's in 8th grade) and got in trouble for it but my parents eventually decided that he could keep his account but they had to be friends with him so that they could monitor who he was adding as friends. His bio mom has been trying to contact him (she's not allowed even supervised visits until he's old enough to make those decisions) so my parents have been really strict on the social media stuff.
Being the 14 year old that he is, he would add people he didn't know, get in trouble, delete them, and then message them anyway. Last week, there were two guys creeping around our neighborhood and they asked our neighbors which house was his and that they were "friends." The neighbors didn't give any info (he's an ex-cop and can smell BS from a mile away) but let my parents know later. They thought maybe they were people working with the bio mom until they looked at surveillance footage and it was someone my nephew had talked to on Facebook but was supposed to be living across the country. Needless to say, he was shaken up and almost spent a couple nights with us just in case.
Social media-ing by teens will happen unless you home school and don't allow them to have friends or leave the house. They will always find a way. All you can do is talk to them about the risks, let them know you are there if they need you (no matter what the circumstance), and monitor as best you can. The first two are most important though - too often I see kids who get into a bad situation online but then are so scared about getting in trouble with mom and dad that they don't get the help that they need.
It sort of reminds me of my college, which instead of having a strict zero tolerance policy re: booze, they organized a trained student EMT service on campus - if you had a friend who drank too much, you called the number and student EMTs would respond immediately to assess the situation and get an ambulance if needed - no questions asked, no one got in trouble. You didn't end up with kids dying from alcohol poisoning because everyone was too worried about getting busted for underage drinking.
Right? I think the biggest issue is that at that age, we think we're untouchable. That all those awful things that happen could never happen to us and we make really dumb decisions based on it which is why I agree that before 15, you really should just stay away from social media sites. That said, it's completely unavoidable at this point in time and I get that.
Social media-ing by teens will happen unless you home school and don't allow them to have friends or leave the house. They will always find a way. All you can do is talk to them about the risks, let them know you are there if they need you (no matter what the circumstance), and monitor as best you can. The first two are most important though - too often I see kids who get into a bad situation online but then are so scared about getting in trouble with mom and dad that they don't get the help that they need.
It sort of reminds me of my college, which instead of having a strict zero tolerance policy re: booze, they organized a trained student EMT service on campus - if you had a friend who drank too much, you called the number and student EMTs would respond immediately to assess the situation and get an ambulance if needed - no questions asked, no one got in trouble. You didn't end up with kids dying from alcohol poisoning because everyone was too worried about getting busted for underage drinking.
This is very much how my parents handled drinking, sex and the internet for my siblings and I. Be careful, be aware of the risks, NEVER drink and drive, and always know you can call Mom and Dad if something goes wrong and we will help you. You might still get a lecture, but it's going to be way worse if I have to bail you out of jail.
Although, my mom maintains a firm stance that she will not bail anyone out of jail. None of us have tested that yet.
Yessss to the Wendy's Spicy Chicken sandwich. It must also be covered in the chili seasoning sauce.
WFT is chili seasoning sauce?
It's a little sauce packet that they give you to put in the Wendy's chili but I put it on fries, cheeseburgers, chicken sandwiches, pretty much everything.
It used to come in a gold packet but they just changed them to red.
It's a little sauce packet that they give you to put in the Wendy's chili but I put it on fries, cheeseburgers, chicken sandwiches, pretty much everything.
It used to come in a gold packet but they just changed them to red.
I wonder if this is a regional thing...? I've gotten chili from Wendy's plenty of times in the past but never got a seasoning packet for it.
Post by requiressnacks on Feb 26, 2016 16:15:29 GMT -5
I actually have a confession related to hemorrhoids though....
Once, I thought I had an STD because my ass hurt so bad. I was like really terrified that I had herpes around my butthole. So, I sucked it up and made an appointment with my Gyno. I get there and he basically tells me I have a giant hemorrhoid. One of the most mortifying moments of my life. I had no idea what they were (at the time) and luckily I haven't had one since.
Number One: Born 06.16.2009 BFP: 01.17.2014 / MC 02.05.2014 BFP: 03.08.2014 / MMC: 05.07.2014 Dx: Partial Molar/GTD. Benched until 01.2015 Number Two: Born 07.22.2016
Number One: Born 06.16.2009 BFP: 01.17.2014 / MC 02.05.2014 BFP: 03.08.2014 / MMC: 05.07.2014 Dx: Partial Molar/GTD. Benched until 01.2015 Number Two: Born 07.22.2016
Number One: Born 06.16.2009 BFP: 01.17.2014 / MC 02.05.2014 BFP: 03.08.2014 / MMC: 05.07.2014 Dx: Partial Molar/GTD. Benched until 01.2015 Number Two: Born 07.22.2016
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