We need to try a bottle but it's harder to figure out when to do it this time. Ideally I'd have H do it in the evening but I don't want to pump the because I have a toddler too. I need to just suck it up and do it though. She's three weeks old today and I don't go back go work until Aug but I want to get her used to taking a bottle so we'll have to do it a few times a week.
Try it. My toddler thinks its hilarious, and he sits with me and "helps pump the booby milk". It also is much faster than nusing, so the whole process is done in about 10 minutes...
Maybe. I find their approach to raising children very strange - they have lots of laws that encourage family togetherness and make life easier for families to exist yet people look at me like I have two heads when I take DD2 to the grocery store (apparently she's meant to be in daycare) and you must never, ever correct your child's behavior in public in any way (also your child should never need to be corrected).
This makes zero sense!
Zero sense, and I'd survive approximately ten seconds if I was out in public with my kids before having to yell at them.
We need to try a bottle but it's harder to figure out when to do it this time. Ideally I'd have H do it in the evening but I don't want to pump the because I have a toddler too. I need to just suck it up and do it though. She's three weeks old today and I don't go back go work until Aug but I want to get her used to taking a bottle so we'll have to do it a few times a week.
Same, except I feel emotionally torn. I don't want her to take a bottle yet, but I know eventually I will and I don't want it to be too late. I think I'm going to say at a month we will try... I will WFH when I go back so it really only ever needs to be an occasional thing, and I don't want it to be super regular.
I'll start this by saying all babies are different, and I'm in NO way trying to pressure you to give your LO a bottle.
However, with my first 2 kids, I was SO nervous they wouldn't be successful at BFing, that I made sure I never gave them a pacifier, and waited to try to introduce a bottle until they were 1-2 months old. That backfired for me, because neither one took a bottle. Like, ever. They went right to sippy cups after 6-7 months old. This time, I made sure to try to relax with the pacifier thing (that was and still is super hard for me for some reason), and just trust that my baby would adjust to whatever we gave her. And she did. She had a pacifier while still at the hospital, and a bottle when she was a week old. She knows the difference between bottle, boob, and pacifier it's nuts.
I wish I would've done this with my first two, but hindsight is always 20/20 isn't it lol.
Post by OrganicRosemary on Mar 22, 2016 17:26:27 GMT -5
Holy engorgement. Dolly dropped off her boobs Sunday evening. My poor LO can't even keep up. I know I shouldn't but I had to pump today or I'd explode...7.5 freaking ounces and that wasn't even completely emptying them. My boobs do not joke around with lactating. I feel bad complaining bc I know there are so many people who struggle with supply...But clogged ducts and mastitis suck too. DNW again. Anybody have any tips for relieving the engorgement without pumping? I've tried manual expressing/hot shower helps some, but there's just so much in there it only helps for a short time.
Same, except I feel emotionally torn. I don't want her to take a bottle yet, but I know eventually I will and I don't want it to be too late. I think I'm going to say at a month we will try... I will WFH when I go back so it really only ever needs to be an occasional thing, and I don't want it to be super regular.
I'll start this by saying all babies are different, and I'm in NO way trying to pressure you to give your LO a bottle.
However, with my first 2 kids, I was SO nervous they wouldn't be successful at BFing, that I made sure I never gave them a pacifier, and waited to try to introduce a bottle until they were 1-2 months old. That backfired for me, because neither one took a bottle. Like, ever. They went right to sippy cups after 6-7 months old. This time, I made sure to try to relax with the pacifier thing (that was and still is super hard for me for some reason), and just trust that my baby would adjust to whatever we gave her. And she did. She had a pacifier while still at the hospital, and a bottle when she was a week old. She knows the difference between bottle, boob, and pacifier it's nuts.
I wish I would've done this with my first two, but hindsight is always 20/20 isn't it lol.
We are not planning to do a paci unless her fussiness gets significantly worse bc so far she is fairly mellow and we haven't remotely needed it. But I think we will try the bottle soon I just don't really want to have to do it regularly, I just want the option, but we'll see how it goes... The LC who taught our class said 3 or 4 weeks was the ideal time to start so I think maybe we will try next week. I just need to get over myself. I am planning on asking about it at the BF support group on Thursday too.
Holy engorgement. Dolly dropped off her boobs Sunday evening. My poor LO can't even keep up. I know I shouldn't but I had to pump today or I'd explode...7.5 freaking ounces and that wasn't even completely emptying them. My boobs do not joke around with lactating. I feel bad complaining bc I know there are so many people who struggle with supply...But clogged ducts and mastitis suck too. DNW again. Anybody have any tips for relieving the engorgement without pumping? I've tried manual expressing/hot shower helps some, but there's just so much in there it only helps for a short time.
I am in a similar situation so i have been massaging each breast as she eats and pulling her off as soon as i am sure there are no lumps or clogged ducts - it has been working so far (no clogged ducts yet). I am hoping my body gets the message not to make so much since i pull her off before the first boob is empty. Edit for clarity
I cried in the Drs office today because I feel like I was being blamed for baby boy not gaining weight. He was 5lbs10oz at birth. He went down to 5lbs 2oz. He was at 5lbs 5oz at 10days. Today he was at 5lbs 15oz. Dr wanted him at 6lbs 2oz. We need to go back in 10days. Dr wants me to keep formula feeding. I really wanted to do more BFing I now feel like he wants the bottle more. Trying to just think happy thoughts and I have to do best for baby.
I cried in the Drs office today because I feel like I was being blamed for baby boy not gaining weight. He was 5lbs10oz at birth. He went down to 5lbs 2oz. He was at 5lbs 5oz at 10days. Today he was at 5lbs 15oz. Dr wanted him at 6lbs 2oz. We need to go back in 10days. Dr wants me to keep formula feeding. I really wanted to do more BFing I now feel like he wants the bottle more. Trying to just think happy thoughts and I have to do best for baby.
I'm sorry. We had weight gain issues with DS1. It was a very hard and discouraging four weeks. But we got the hang of it, and I ended up BFing for 19 months.
How old is baby? How often is he nursing? Have you tried pumping and supplementing with breastmilk rather than formula? It's a lot more work because you must pump after each nursing session but it will help build and preserve your supply while ensuring baby gets the milk he needs. I apologize if I missed an earlier post where you discussed your situation. Big hugs regardless.
I cried in the Drs office today because I feel like I was being blamed for baby boy not gaining weight. He was 5lbs10oz at birth. He went down to 5lbs 2oz. He was at 5lbs 5oz at 10days. Today he was at 5lbs 15oz. Dr wanted him at 6lbs 2oz. We need to go back in 10days. Dr wants me to keep formula feeding. I really wanted to do more BFing I now feel like he wants the bottle more. Trying to just think happy thoughts and I have to do best for baby.
I'm sorry. We had weight gain issues with DS1. It was a very hard and discouraging four weeks. But we got the hang of it, and I ended up BFing for 19 months.
How old is baby? How often is he nursing? Have you tried pumping and supplementing with breastmilk rather than formula? It's a lot more work because you must pump after each nursing session but it will help build and preserve your supply while ensuring baby gets the milk he needs. I apologize if I missed an earlier post where you discussed your situation. Big hugs regardless.
He will be 4 weeks on Sunday. He gets really lazy when I latch him on. He'll only eat for about 15min on each boob. I'm pumping when he sleeps but only get about an 1oz or 2. With my first I BF till he was 13mos. And my first refused the bottle. This little guy enjoys the bottle.
paloslee have you gone to an LC to do a weighed feeding? Most docs measure babies according to grow FF babies gain. BF babies gain wretch differently. We have written gain issues as well. My doc said add long as he gains as minimum a half ounce per day, she is happy. I world start with a weighed feeding ado you can see how much he is transferring. GL mama. I know how frustrating weight gain issues are. Superman will be 4 weeks and has not gotten back to his birth weight yet.
I'm super discouraged and weepy today. I was up all night with a crying baby who demanded to be fed but then as soon as I'd start he'd fall asleep. No matter what I tried I couldn't get him to stay awake for a good feed. Naked, clothed, talking to him, tickling him... Nothing. It's like he needed my boob as a pacifier. Even tried giving him an actual pacifier. Did not work.
I haven't slept and am just sitting here feeling like a failure. I'm so bad at this nighttime thing. I don't know what to do to make it better for him or me and so I just sit here and beat myself up.
I'm super discouraged and weepy today. I was up all night with a crying baby who demanded to be fed but then as soon as I'd start he'd fall asleep. No matter what I tried I couldn't get him to stay awake for a good feed. Naked, clothed, talking to him, tickling him... Nothing. It's like he needed my boob as a pacifier. Even tried giving him an actual pacifier. Did not work.
I haven't slept and am just sitting here feeling like a failure. I'm so bad at this nighttime thing. I don't know what to do to make it better for him or me and so I just sit here and beat myself up.
Hugs! Sometimes they just want to be near the boob and freak out when it's gone. It's rough over night. Have you tried side lying? If you aren't opposed to a little cosleeping it might help both of you get some rest. Let him fall asleep nipple in mouth and then sleep yourself if you can. Even though I don't want to make a regular thing of her sleeping in bed with us, it's definitely saved us a few times. Hopefully he calms down and you can get a nap. You are definitely not doing anything wrong, sometimes they are just fussy.
Post by zombiesquad on Mar 23, 2016 9:21:41 GMT -5
@pugsandwine, you're definitely not a failure. I wish these babies came with instructions on exactly what they needed and when. I was up every hour with LO last night. I couldn't figure him out. Was he hungry? Gassy? Overtired? Stuffy? No idea. Nothing I did worked and no one was up to help me. It's frustrating, isolating and exhausting. But the thing I try to keep in mind is all this will pass.
Married since 2010 DX w/PCOS in Feb 2011 Five cycles w/Letrozole+TI+IUI BFP w/injects+IUI in 2012 DD born May 2013 NTNP since 2015 Early miscarriage March 2015 TTA April/May BFP June! DS born February 2016
I'm super discouraged and weepy today. I was up all night with a crying baby who demanded to be fed but then as soon as I'd start he'd fall asleep. No matter what I tried I couldn't get him to stay awake for a good feed. Naked, clothed, talking to him, tickling him... Nothing. It's like he needed my boob as a pacifier. Even tried giving him an actual pacifier. Did not work.
I haven't slept and am just sitting here feeling like a failure. I'm so bad at this nighttime thing. I don't know what to do to make it better for him or me and so I just sit here and beat myself up.
I could have written this today. I'm sorry you are having a rough day too. It's hard when you know the hormones are making it worse yet can't quit crying regardless.
paloslee have you gone to an LC to do a weighed feeding? Most docs measure babies according to grow FF babies gain. BF babies gain wretch differently. We have written gain issues as well. My doc said add long as he gains as minimum a half ounce per day, she is happy. I world start with a weighed feeding ado you can see how much he is transferring. GL mama. I know how frustrating weight gain issues are. Superman will be 4 weeks and has not gotten back to his birth weight yet.
The LC, who was my LC with my first, also recommended that baby should be at 6lbs 2oz. She mentioned gaining an oz a day. So I'm just trying to do what I can. I will continue to pump and latch him on. Hopefully with time. Thanks for your kind words.
paloslee, do you think getting him to pay attention longer during a feeding would help? DD keeps falling asleep too so when she starts nodding off now, I tickle her feet then when that stops working I put her on my shoulder to burp. The bouncing and back-rubbing usually wakes her up enough to keep her going a bit longer. Extra burps during her feed takes a few minutes longer overall but saves us both from feeding in constant 5 minute bursts.
We've tried undressing him and taking off his diaper he'll budge but not for long. I still attempt to latch but he'll doze off. He'll unlatch. Funny thing is with the bottle he'll chug that sucker dry. So I'm just hoping with time it'll get better. Thanks for the tips.
I'm super discouraged and weepy today. I was up all night with a crying baby who demanded to be fed but then as soon as I'd start he'd fall asleep. No matter what I tried I couldn't get him to stay awake for a good feed. Naked, clothed, talking to him, tickling him... Nothing. It's like he needed my boob as a pacifier. Even tried giving him an actual pacifier. Did not work.
I haven't slept and am just sitting here feeling like a failure. I'm so bad at this nighttime thing. I don't know what to do to make it better for him or me and so I just sit here and beat myself up.
I fell ya pugs. You are not a failure. My boy has been doing the same thing. Hugs. I keep telling myself with time it'll get better. They are still learning.
Ugh! My phone makes me appear that I never went to school. I'm sorry for all the typos paloslee. I'm glad you could get the gist with the horrible typos. Can we chalk it up to sleep deprivation and a phone that is out to get me?
Ugh! My phone makes me appear that I never went to school. I'm sorry for all the typos paloslee. I'm glad you could get the gist with the horrible typos. Can we chalk it up to sleep deprivation and a phone that is out to get me?
Lol. I know I'm mobile too. Plus add the lack of sleep
Holy engorgement. Dolly dropped off her boobs Sunday evening. My poor LO can't even keep up. I know I shouldn't but I had to pump today or I'd explode...7.5 freaking ounces and that wasn't even completely emptying them. My boobs do not joke around with lactating. I feel bad complaining bc I know there are so many people who struggle with supply...But clogged ducts and mastitis suck too. DNW again. Anybody have any tips for relieving the engorgement without pumping? I've tried manual expressing/hot shower helps some, but there's just so much in there it only helps for a short time.
My LC suggests peppermint to reduce supply a little bit. Her preferred method was peppermint patties but you could do tea as well.
I'm super discouraged and weepy today. I was up all night with a crying baby who demanded to be fed but then as soon as I'd start he'd fall asleep. No matter what I tried I couldn't get him to stay awake for a good feed. Naked, clothed, talking to him, tickling him... Nothing. It's like he needed my boob as a pacifier. Even tried giving him an actual pacifier. Did not work.
I haven't slept and am just sitting here feeling like a failure. I'm so bad at this nighttime thing. I don't know what to do to make it better for him or me and so I just sit here and beat myself up.
*hugs* we've all been there. I've cried during more MOTN diaper changes then I care to admit. I do not do well on little sleep.
Did you try the 5S's? K was super overstimulated last night because a bunch on people came to see her. She had been cranky all day and it just made it worse. I did the tricks from happiest baby on the block and it really helped calm her down.
Last night, DD wouldn't settle. Eventually in the very small hours, I fell asleep side feeding and then woke up a few hours later with her fast asleep, sprawled across my boob. Not something I would have done intentionally but it worked. Also, my right arm was completely numb for the next half hour so I don't recommend that at all.
paloslee , do you think getting him to pay attention longer during a feeding would help? DD keeps falling asleep too so when she starts nodding off now, I tickle her feet then when that stops working I put her on my shoulder to burp. The bouncing and back-rubbing usually wakes her up enough to keep her going a bit longer. Extra burps during her feed takes a few minutes longer overall but saves us both from feeding in constant 5 minute bursts.
We've tried undressing him and taking off his diaper he'll budge but not for long. I still attempt to latch but he'll doze off. He'll unlatch. Funny thing is with the bottle he'll chug that sucker dry. So I'm just hoping with time it'll get better. Thanks for the tips.
I'm super discouraged and weepy today. I was up all night with a crying baby who demanded to be fed but then as soon as I'd start he'd fall asleep. No matter what I tried I couldn't get him to stay awake for a good feed. Naked, clothed, talking to him, tickling him... Nothing. It's like he needed my boob as a pacifier. Even tried giving him an actual pacifier. Did not work.
I haven't slept and am just sitting here feeling like a failure. I'm so bad at this nighttime thing. I don't know what to do to make it better for him or me and so I just sit here and beat myself up.
*hugs* we've all been there. I've cried during more MOTN diaper changes then I care to admit. I do not do well on little sleep.
Did you try the 5S's? K was super overstimulated last night because a bunch on people came to see her. She had been cranky all day and it just made it worse. I did the tricks from happiest baby on the block and it really helped calm her down.
Yeah - The 5 S's are amazing and have helped us through a LOT. This is just a weird thing he's going through where it's boob (not even really feeding, just sleeping on it/with it in his mouth and then sucking once every two to three minutes or so) or screaming. I couldn't get him to settle without my boob for more than 15 minutes at a time. Of course now, in the beautiful daylight, he's been asleep in his mamaroo for an hour.
Last night was just the worst night by far... I legit had so many moments of thinking "I can't do this." I need to do some research and come up with some game plans for tonight and future nights. I'm terrible at the overnight lack of sleep thing and I can't let baby suffer for it, so it's time to come up with a plan to set my attitude straight and get him the nourishment and comfort he needs.
Last night was just the worst night by far... I legit had so many moments of thinking "I can't do this." I need to do some research and come up with some game plans for tonight and future nights. I'm terrible at the overnight lack of sleep thing and I can't let baby suffer for it, so it's time to come up with a plan to set my attitude straight and get him the nourishment and comfort he needs.
I definitely agree with everything everyone already said. In addition, bouncing on an excercise ball really conks them out. Not sure why but there something different about that motion that babies really like. Here are a few other things you can try - make sure he gets in the habit of taking full feedings during the day so dont let him fall asleep on the boob. Also, keep him awake (we try for an hour) after each feeding so he learns the difference between day and night. My pedi said "sleep begets sleep", so make sure he is sleeping well during the day too. Youre doing great momma! Before you know it, you will be a pro!
Also - if you guys haven't gotten one of these, I got mine yesterday and am already in love with it. Super helpful to have my hands free during a pump session:
Also - if you guys haven't gotten one of these, I got mine yesterday and am already in love with it. Super helpful to have my hands free during a pump session:
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