Post by heartofglass on Apr 12, 2016 9:25:56 GMT -5
I'm convinced A is having bad dreams. Some of his MOTN crying he doesn't wake up at first, he just cries. If I talk to him and he hears me he will settle back down in my arms or else he'll open his eyes wide and see its me, then he settles. It's odd, but at least it works sometimes and he goes back to sleep.
Post by periwinkledaydreams on Apr 13, 2016 9:26:54 GMT -5
For real though, doesn't sleep. Like last night she slept from 8-10:30 and then was awake until... I dunno, 3am? Then it's a mix of half sleep mostly just tossing and turning and moaning and throwing her body around until morning. I'm losing it.
No advice periwinkledaydreams - I would be at my wit's end! Do you have an early childhood health nurse you can speak to about it? I just want to send you a plane ticket here. The Australian healthcare system has many flaws but it does have free sleep schools.
No advice periwinkledaydreams - I would be at my wit's end! Do you have an early childhood health nurse you can speak to about it? I just want to send you a plane ticket here. The Australian healthcare system has many flaws but it does have free sleep schools.
Wow, I need a sleep school. Well forst I need to know what a sleep school is!
I have talked to her ped about her sleep at every single appointment because its always been awful, but at this point I think it warrants an outside call because its off the charts terrible. The hours aren't adding up and we're all a big mess.
For real though, doesn't sleep. Like last night she slept from 8-10:30 and then was awake until... I dunno, 3am? Then it's a mix of half sleep mostly just tossing and turning and moaning and throwing her body around until morning. I'm losing it.
I'm so sorry, I'd be losing it too. Have you talked to the ped about it? Being up for all hours of the night like that would be concerning, and obviously very frustrating and exhausting for you. Does she sleep during the day to make up for it, or is she awake all day too?
Her naps are all wonky, hit or miss, and since our nights have got this bad just all over the place no shedule at all. Like a day like today after a really bad night, she stayed "in bed" so tossing and turning but essentially asleep on and off from 3am until 8:30am. Then she napped from about 11:30-1:30 and fell asleep again on a long car ride from like 4 til 5. This is not typical, another day she could be up at 5:45, down for a nap at 9, up by 10, down again at 3, who knows... the only thing she is is inconsistent. Oh and awake.
No advice periwinkledaydreams - I would be at my wit's end! Do you have an early childhood health nurse you can speak to about it? I just want to send you a plane ticket here. The Australian healthcare system has many flaws but it does have free sleep schools.
Wow, I need a sleep school. Well forst I need to know what a sleep school is!
I have talked to her ped about her sleep at every single appointment because its always been awful, but at this point I think it warrants an outside call because its off the charts terrible. The hours aren't adding up and we're all a big mess.
So, in most capital cities here there is at least one state funded sleep school. They are run by early childhood health nurses. You tend to go and stay for 5 nights and they hold your hand through getting your baby to STTN or at least sleep better. I haven't been but friends that have said it is basically just CIO with reassurance.
There are also private sleep consultants who charge thousands to do the same thing in your home. Big business here.
Post by hannahl201477 on Apr 19, 2016 10:12:18 GMT -5
Needing to vent!! My mom often tells me when talking about how Mal doesn't sleep good at night "well you and your brother both slept all night long". It's so frustrating, I know we did but that doesn't mean Mal will. Last night he was up 3 times and I made the comment to her how tired I was. She then said 3 times was way too much and told me I needed to take vitamins that may give me more energy. Sure it probably will. But I'm sleepy bc I'm up off and on all night a vitamin isn't going to help that issue. We have been so busy on top of him not sleeping good and I'm just at my breaking point. I'm so tired I don't even want to move. Dh use to take him on the weekend mornings but that hasn't happened in awhile.
I'm sorry hannahl201477 I would tell her to back off and that every baby is different! I get so annoyed with anyone who is judgey about babies not STTN.
Wow, I need a sleep school. Well forst I need to know what a sleep school is!
I have talked to her ped about her sleep at every single appointment because its always been awful, but at this point I think it warrants an outside call because its off the charts terrible. The hours aren't adding up and we're all a big mess.
So, in most capital cities here there is at least one state funded sleep school. They are run by early childhood health nurses. You tend to go and stay for 5 nights and they hold your hand through getting your baby to STTN or at least sleep better. I haven't been but friends that have said it is basically just CIO with reassurance.
There are also private sleep consultants who charge thousands to do the same thing in your home. Big business here.
That's so nice that they have that kind of resource for parents! I don't think I could personally do CIO though so I probably wouldn't be one to take advantage of it.
Post by billyhorrible on Apr 19, 2016 12:37:36 GMT -5
hannahl201477, I honestly think parents have selective memories when it comes to child-rearing. Maybe you slept through the night early, maybe you didn't. But I would bet either way her actual memory of what happened all those many years ago isn't accurate.
My mother swears up and down that I was a really easy toddler. And I don't believe that for one hot minute.
hannahl201477, I honestly think parents have selective memories when it comes to child-rearing. Maybe you slept through the night early, maybe you didn't. But I would bet either way her actual memory of what happened all those many years ago isn't accurate.
My mother swears up and down that I was a really easy toddler. And I don't believe that for one hot minute.
Lol, not my mother. I remember quite clearly what she said when I was at my wit's end with DD giving up naps at age 2, and I had tried EVERYTHING and she would.not.sleep.
Post by wegrowsheep on Apr 20, 2016 23:39:01 GMT -5
T won't sleep for more than an hour or so by himself. He's a bed hog. He straight up screams if I attempt lowering him into the pnp. He eats a couple times at night. I don't care right now. Eventually, maybe.
Post by pghtruelove on Apr 21, 2016 3:51:11 GMT -5
Our house is currently a trade off on who has to sleep with the baby. She is either in bed with me or on the couch with SO. She also wakes up every half hour to an hour. I miss sleep so much.
Post by heartofglass on Apr 21, 2016 12:08:03 GMT -5
A is still up a bunch at night, he just starts whining and crying and has to rocked or repositioned. He's eating 2 or 3 times also. I get about 30 minutes to an hour after I first lay him down and then he's up and will only settle if I rock him. I've resigned myself to the fact that we're going to be like this at least until he's done teething, but at least he doesn't snore.
Post by musicfrk2002 on Apr 23, 2016 2:51:41 GMT -5
J has been waking up within 15 to 30 minutes of when I get to bed for a week and a half now. Last week I'm assuming due to diarrhea and stomach issues, but I'm not sure what is going on now. It's late enough tonight that he may only be up once instead of twice, but idk why the sudden change.
Tears in my eyes. It's 4AM and I've gotten maybe 2 hours of sleep and am too upset to go back to sleep. The past few weeks G has been waking up like 4 times/night. It's finally wearing me down, I NEED H to help me and I just don't think she's hungry and needs to nurse that often. But every time she wakes up he just wants me to feed her. So last night I pretended to sleep through one of her wake ups and he handled it, it was fine. Tonight we put the zipadee zip on her for the first time and I tried to get him to handle her first wake up and he gave up after 5 minutes. 45 minutes later I got her to sleep without feeding her. She woke up again a bit ago and I told him it was his turn and it turned into a fight. He seems to think it is the zipadee zips fault she's waking up. DUDE she's been waking up like this for a few weeks and you just don't notice because I handle it without him waking up. I could totally handle when she woke up twice/night. Even three times wasn't terrible. But a few weeks of 4 times almost every night and I just can't do it alone anymore.
Post by heartofglass on Apr 23, 2016 6:35:00 GMT -5
I know it doesn't help but we're in the same situation belle0720. Some nights are better, but A is up a minimum of 4 times a night. Like you, I know he can't be hungry so I'm trying to get him back to sleep with soothing. I do feed him if it's been 3 hours though, sometimes it's the only thing that will get him back to sleep. My H doesn't help at all with MOTN wake ups either. Does G have any teeth coming in? A was doing much better before these molars started moving. Tylenol seems to help a little.
heartofglass yeah I was thinking along the same lines, if she hasn't eaten in 3 hours we'll feed her since she generally goes 3-4 hours between bottles/nursing during the day. She doesn't have any signs of teeth coming in. I have no idea why her sleep has gotten worse.
And it's not even just that I'm tired, cause I am but I could totally be going to sleep earlier every night so it's partially my fault. I'm mostly upset because I was excited to try something new and H completely freaked out on me like I was being a bad mom and it was mine (and the zipadee zip's LOL) fault that G was awake crying. He sleeps through most wake ups so he just has no idea how often she wakes until I tell him about it in the morning. He just doesn't get it.
I remember when G was 2-3 months old and getting a good 5+ hour stretch at night. Someone in a fb group posted about her ~1 year old waking like 5 times each night and I felt bad for her. I'm that mom now. I'm ashamed that I was such a smug bitch 8 months ago.
Hugs, belle0720! That sounds so rough. I had to space out lo's nursing time at night as well because she was waking up all the time, too. H and I had a conversation during the day about when he should get up and when I should and thankfully it has mostly worked for us.
Post by billyhorrible on Apr 23, 2016 11:21:22 GMT -5
belle0720 -we do something similar. If it's been 3+ hours I'll go in, otherwise DH goes in on recon. If BH settles right away, DH rocks him back down, if not I go in for a feeding.
I find their sleep stretches so variable. Last night BH was up every hour from 12 to 5am (I left the house at 5,so I'm not sure how much longer he slept after that. )
Thank you so much for the advice and reassurance ladies. H had gotten her back to sleep when I first posted and then about an hour later she woke up again so I fed her and then we slept for over 4 hours. Which means I only fed her once in the MOTN. Last night was the first time trying to stretch her night feedings apart and although I got upset and couldn't sleep for 4 hours in the MOTN and H got mad at me for not feeding her when she was crying, I actually think it totally proved that she doesn't need to be fed every time she wakes up. Crossing my fingers it just gets better from here.
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