I FF and this doesn't sound right to me, not at this age. Maybe after baby has started solids, yes. But right now I feed on demand. Which means feeding 8-12 times during the day. L often has three bottles before lunch!
Hell, I feed my toddler more than four times in 24 hours!
there's more to it than what I described. It's about keeping them awake for a specific amount of time at certain parts of the day, feeding them less and less at night. Basically if you follow their schedule you make them drop night feedings by 12 weeks and then will STTN by then.
I've only read excerpts from the book- not something I would do but people swear by it.
Hmmm I haven't heard of this before, but if it works for them, great! Every kid is so different.
I hope B settles for you soon and gives you a good stretch!
I'm not sure why DH thinks waking me up to get some when he finally decides to come to bed is going to have me in any kind of a mood. Especially when I said an hour and a half ago - I'm tired. I'm going to attempt to sleep while he's sleeping.
Like what??
No dude. Now I'm just tired, groggy, and pissed off.
So this comes with a huge disclaimer: I KNOW I can't sleep train a 3 month old.
We didn't sleep train DS1 until around 12 months old, and it worked well. He slept much like B did, up all night. The thought of doing this for another 9 months is actually terrifying.
So at what age did you sleep train your big kids? Sleep is sacred and my hill to die on. I feel like if I know when I can sleep train I'll feel better about this.
My friends said as early as 4 months. That seems way early, and I was thinking at 6 months.
Question for the MM suit users. Irene turned 3 months on Tuesday. Despite one miracle night earlier this week she's been waking more at night since then and breaking out of the miracle blanket. So I tried the MM suit last night. It was a hand me down from a friend so I'm not sure if it's lost some of its stiffness but she can still move her arms in it. She even gets her hands up to her mouth in it. Is this supposed to happen? This is my last attempt before ditching the swaddle.
Question for the MM suit users. Irene turned 3 months on Tuesday. Despite one miracle night earlier this week she's been waking more at night since then and breaking out of the miracle blanket. So I tried the MM suit last night. It was a hand me down from a friend so I'm not sure if it's lost some of its stiffness but she can still move her arms in it. She even gets her hands up to her mouth in it. Is this supposed to happen? This is my last attempt before ditching the swaddle.
B can get his hands to his mouth easily in his, and I bought it new. I think this is normal.
melody330 I sleep trained DD at 6 months. It was for naps though not nighttime. She was horrible at napping and so cranky during the day. It worked really well.
I've been telling myself that people who have babies that STTN are just liars, ha. This being my third I just don't understand how it's possible. J was sleeping so well and I felt all happy I finally got a magical baby and then bam she's sleeping worse than when she was a newborn. Screams bloody murder half the time when I try to put her down at night. I think she's teething, my other two got teeth at 4 months but still. I'm so cranky during the day. I can't parent 3 children on no sleep.
melody330 we tried to sleep train DD1 at 4 months and it was a failure. I felt pushed into it by DH (who really I think just felt bad because he couldn't help with MOTN wakings) and it just did not work for us. The crying broke my heart and I was back at work by then and decided if we were going to have time together in the MOTN then I was okay with it. We read the Ferber book to sleep train. Even though we didn't go through with it I think it's worth reading.
I still don't really get sleep training. Like what do you do?
The idea is that everyone (babies through adults) have periods of wakefulness throughout the night. A baby has to be able to get themselves back to sleep in order to STTN. If they are unable to self-soothe, they will be relying on mom or dad to soothe then back to sleep each time. Some babies will do it on their own, with thumb sucking, light fussing, whatever. But others won't. My DD1 was up 4x a night from months 5.5-8 ish.
Some sleep trainng methods use cry-it-out, some don't. My DD became dependant on nursing to go back to sleep so I did a gradual withdrawal where I got down to just soothing her without picking her up.
Then she learned to pull up in her crib and all hell broke loose and we eventually did CIO after laying her back down 56,000 times. It was not that bad and I'd try it again.
Also, the Ferber method is the most well-known CIO method. If I remember right, you go in a bunch of times and tell the baby you love them and they need to sleep, but don't pick them up. You wait increasing intervals (5 min, 10 min, 20 min) and eventually they will stop crying and go to sleep. Subsequent nights are supposed to each get easier.
With DD1 she only cried 20 min before going to sleep and after that it was like a miracle. There were some moms on my BMB whose kids cried for 1+ hours until they puked in their crib. I don't know if I coukd have done that I feel for them though
I still don't really get sleep training. Like what do you do?
Yes to everything katelou said. We also had to break some pretty heavy sleep associations. There was crying for sure, but for the most part it was magical. Definitely don't "wing it", and read books/articles about different ways. I like the site precious little sleep. They have great articles.
Post by rungirlrun on Oct 22, 2016 12:22:12 GMT -5
We trained C (DS1) with The Sleep Easy Solution. The authors were very firm in that a baby should be a certain age and weight before sleep training (too bad I can't remember, maybe 6 months). But it worked great for us. It was modified CIO. I'm personally not opposed to CIO, but I wonder how that will go with having an older kid. C sleeps through all of E's crying now, but I can't imagine him sleeping through real crying where we don't get him right away. I guess we will tackle that when the time comes.
melody330, we sleep trained J at about 7 months, and I wished we had done it sooner. It totally changed our lives. Around 4 months old, he started waking up 4+ times a night and after I had gone back to work I was dying. We tried doing CIO with check ins, but the checks only made it worse so we ended up doing full extinction. It took us about a week. The first 3 days were shit city, but then got so much better.
We had to do a couple rounds of retraining due to teething, and various illnesses but usually 1 or 2 nights had us back on track.
Post by littlesthobo on Oct 22, 2016 22:24:06 GMT -5
We sleep trained DS1 at 6 months using the stepped soothing method (went in to soothe at 1, 2, 5, 8, 10 min intervals). The first night took 25 mins total, the second 15, the third 10 and that was all it took. That being said, I feel like his transition to a real bed has had us re-sleep training him. He's been playing us at bedtime and last night I was a hardass about it, and he cried for over half an hour. Tonight because I'm solo I had no choice but to be a hardass and he cried 10 mins. Hopefully I'm getting somewhere!
First chunk of the night was 3 hrs. Of which I got 45 minutes. So on goes the sleep suit. I have everything crossed. I hope you get a half decent second chunk ellebelle
Could have been worse could have been better for second stretch. Her hands have been icy cold on this suit though. Anyone else have that problem?
Yes - flint just woke up for the first time in his. 2hrs 45mins is better than 1hr 45 but I'm not feeling the magic yet. His hands are also icy - DH just went to get scratch mitts to put on him
Most of his forearm is out. Is this too small? We bought 0-3mo
Could have been worse could have been better for second stretch. Her hands have been icy cold on this suit though. Anyone else have that problem?
Yes - flint just woke up for the first time in his. 2hrs 45mins is better than 1hr 45 but I'm not feeling the magic yet. His hands are also icy - DH just went to get scratch mitts to put on him
Most of his forearm is out. Is this too small? We bought 0-3mo
I just put a sleeper on B and make sure I pull the sleeves all the way down. It goes down to his mid fore arm too. I think it's right.
Ugh this suit is not working for us. And I smashed my toe going back upstairs to bed after the last wakeup. I'm already planning how much coffee I will need tomorrow.
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