Sitewide UO/FFC LET'S GET READY TO RUUUUUUUMBLE!

[elephantastic]

Aug 10, 2016 7:32:53 GMT -5 @pbfox said:

Since SAHM I've joined a workout group I found on FB. Over the past couple of months I've learned that some of the women are pro Trump and one in particular has shared some infuriating HRC memes. My confession is that I have not called her out on this and I'm going to continue participating in the group because I otherwise I like these women and enjoy the exercise and adult interaction.

* to clarify I only know of their views through FB we've never had any political discussions during our workouts

A coworker that I thought I liked is super pro-trump, anti Hillary. You would never know it from speaking with her IRL but her FB is like whoa. I have to refrain from commenting just because I do kind of like her outside of that. *shame*

[McBenny]

I read my phone in traffic.

[librarychica]

Aug 10, 2016 7:43:56 GMT -5 @uncaripswife said:

I've never cut my 3 1/2 year old's hair and maybe won't for years. Her hair is crazy. But the hair around her face is juuust now long enough to get in a ponytail. I'll cut it when she wants it cut. I guess.

I have the opposite confession -- I cut my 4yos hair every 6 weeks.

"Those beautiful curls! Why don't you let her grow them out?"

"Because I'm lazy."

I've convinced her that short hair is the best.

[elephantastic]

Aug 10, 2016 7:40:44 GMT -5 @ftwr said:

And you better be making your kid's purees lest you be feeing them nutritionaly deficient jarred baby food.

I made baby food because I'm cheap as fuck.

[mrsrexmanning]

I honestly don't think I could be any sort of friends with someone who legit supported Trump. Like, at all.

Trump is the country music to my Brux.

[angelashly]

Aug 10, 2016 7:43:56 GMT -5 @uncaripswife said:

I've never cut my 3 1/2 year old's hair and maybe won't for years. Her hair is crazy. But the hair around her face is juuust now long enough to get in a ponytail. I'll cut it when she wants it cut. I guess.

My kid was 4 before she got her first hair cut.

[SheilaTheTank]

Aug 10, 2016 7:40:44 GMT -5 @ftwr said:

And you better be making your kid's purees lest you be feeing them nutritionaly deficient jarred baby food.

OMG this! If one more fucking person tells me how easy it is to make your own purees im going to fucking scream. Unless you're going to make them for me then shut the fuck up.

I have major feels about this apparently.

[McBenny]

I don't understand women or a minoritu voting for Trump. I would need it explained to me slowly.

[SheilaTheTank]

Aug 10, 2016 7:43:22 GMT -5 @sing2phins said:

Aug 10, 2016 7:00:24 GMT -5 SheilaTheTank said:

UO: I think Paralympic athletes are way more impressive then regular Olympic athletes. Not only do they have to be incredibly athletic, but they also have to overcome the physical and mental challenges that comes with having a physical disability. It annoys the fuck out of me that the Paralympics aren't given the same amount of media coverage as the regular Olympics.

As a person with a disability, I find this opinion somewhat condescending. I'm so tired of the "inspirationally disadvantaged" trope.

I apologize if this came off as offensive. I did not intend it to be.

[librarychica]

Aug 10, 2016 7:47:48 GMT -5 McBenny said:

I don't understand women or a minoritu voting for Trump. I would need it explained to me slowly.

With a flowchart. I am much harder on women who support Trump than men. I mean, ideally no one would but WHY, ladies?

[bibliothecary]

Fair enough. I guess I'm being naive in that I think both sides can offer each other something. Support being the main thing. Information exchange? Advice? A lack of dickishness? I don't know. What we currently have going on obviously isn't working and is leaving both sides (why are there even fucking sides?) defensive and entrenched in their position.

[Deleted]

Saying I'd like to see formula be improved isn't a slam about formula being poison. It's a good product and it can be improved on.

There are other ways to reach the % of sugars necessary without using things we usually consider unhealthy like high fructose corn syrup. That should be something we should all be able to agree on. That a good product that is so important for babies growth should be as good of a product as we can make commercially in our smarty pants society.

And if your own diet is full of high fructose corn syrup and you are breastfeeding you may get a side eye and a comment about your diet could be improved as well.

I am laughing about laughing about lactivist studies cause that isn't actually a thing. Most of what we know of the composition of breastmilk comes from studies funded by formula companies over the years.

[elephantastic]

Aug 10, 2016 7:47:24 GMT -5 SheilaTheTank said:

Aug 10, 2016 7:40:44 GMT -5 @ftwr said:

And you better be making your kid's purees lest you be feeing them nutritionaly deficient jarred baby food.

OMG this! If one more fucking person tells me how easy it is to make your own purees im going to fucking scream. Unless you're going to make them for me then shut the fuck up.

I have major feels about this apparently.

I made my own and every time I needed to replenish I was all "GROAN GROAN GROAN". But then I did it and remembered that it was pretty easy. Mostly because I could, for example, throw a mixture in the crockpot and I had food for a month.

Thankfully that stage was over quickly because even though it was "Easy" it was still kind of a PITA when you ran out and needed to make more.

[acorn99]

Aug 10, 2016 7:45:51 GMT -5 librarychica said:

Aug 10, 2016 7:43:56 GMT -5 @uncaripswife said:

I've never cut my 3 1/2 year old's hair and maybe won't for years. Her hair is crazy. But the hair around her face is juuust now long enough to get in a ponytail. I'll cut it when she wants it cut. I guess.

I have the opposite confession -- I cut my 4yos hair every 6 weeks.

"Those beautiful curls! Why don't you let her grow them out?"

"Because I'm lazy."

I've convinced her that short hair is the best.

My mom kept me in a pixie cut until I was old enough to care for it myself. I plan to do the same with my daughter.

Because lazy.

[Deleted]

Aug 10, 2016 7:44:22 GMT -5 SheilaTheTank said:

As someone who is currently pumping at work, I'd rather them improve breast pump technology. There has to be a better and more efficient option then what is currently out there.

Heck yeah. The technology of a breast pump could use some serious improvement. If guys had to use it there would be all sorts of breakthroughs.

[angelashly]

Aug 10, 2016 7:47:48 GMT -5 McBenny said:

I don't understand women or a minoritu voting for Trump. I would need it explained to me slowly.

I don't think they could talk slow enough for me to get it.

FFFC: I assume they are not smart enough to know anything and their fathers/husbands have told them to do it so they do.

[elephantastic]

Now that my kid is obsessed with putting things in random drawers/cabinets there is a sippy cup count at the end of every day.

[cyprissa]

Aug 10, 2016 6:53:51 GMT -5 rvasc said:

Aug 10, 2016 6:51:56 GMT -5 jags8 said:

FFC- A couple weeks ago DH was at a bachelor party, and he called me at 1:00 a.m. and said that "we need to talk." He explained that some drunk girl fell in the parking lot and when he tried helping her up, she grabbed his junk.

Part of me really wanted to ask if there was more to the story, like was he leading her on in the bar? But then I was like "holy shit that is so sexist. I would never ask a girl if she did something to deserve being sexually assaulted." I'm a hypocrite.

This would send up my spidey senses too, just because he felt the need to call you just to tell you it happened.

I think it is really weird to call you immediately about this.

[Deleted]

Aug 10, 2016 7:54:36 GMT -5 angelashly said:

Aug 10, 2016 7:47:48 GMT -5 McBenny said:

I don't understand women or a minoritu voting for Trump. I would need it explained to me slowly.

I don't think they could talk slow enough for me to get it.

FFFC: I assume they are not smart enough to know anything and their fathers/husbands have told them to do it so they do.

Me too.

[elephantastic]

Aug 10, 2016 7:55:50 GMT -5 @thatgolfbitch said:

Aug 10, 2016 7:28:48 GMT -5 elephantastic said:

FFWC When I read 9 I was like, why so late?

There isn't just one time zone!!

I know. I figured the 9am time was actually to account for the other time zones so it wasn't starting at 4am for the west coasters. I will admit that I don't remember from the initial post which time zone was specified.

[lizblue]

Aug 10, 2016 7:50:31 GMT -5 bibliothecary said:

Fair enough. I guess I'm being naive in that I think both sides can offer each other something. Support being the main thing. Information exchange? Advice? A lack of dickishness? I don't know. What we currently have going on obviously isn't working and is leaving both sides (why are there even fucking sides?) defensive and entrenched in their position.

Well.... TBH, it was your exact post that drew lines into camps in this particular discussion. You feel people should not use the word but after describing their support for BF, and then you said "I think formula is a good product, BUT." Nutrition is actually not that complicated. Science has gotten it pretty much figured out. Could it always be improved - um, yes? But focusing on that will raise the hackles of FF parents, no?

There really are no sides. Feed your babies. Stop making anyone feel shitty about the way they feed their babies. Even inadvertently.

[angelashly]

Aug 10, 2016 7:56:20 GMT -5 @tifga said:

Aug 10, 2016 6:18:56 GMT -5 bibliothecary said:

UO: you're not entitled to your opinion. You're entitled to whatever position you can defend well. It may be your opinion that the holocaust never happened. That does not make you right or not an asshole.

Of course you are.
Pb is gross.
Summer sucks.

What you aren't entitled to is hurt people. What you aren't entitled to is not being told off of you're wrong or cruel.

This is where I am. Yes people are entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts. Also that means I am entitled to my opinion and can tell you that your opinion are wrong.

[Deleted]

Aug 10, 2016 7:56:39 GMT -5 cyprissa said:

Aug 10, 2016 6:53:51 GMT -5 rvasc said:

This would send up my spidey senses too, just because he felt the need to call you just to tell you it happened.

I think it is really weird to call you immediately about this.

Why?
If someone groped you, would you maybe feel all gross about it and want to talk to your spouse for a bit of comfort and reassurance?
Cause if it's ok for a woman it's ok for a man to feel Ickie about being groped and want to call and talk about it right away.

[bibliothecary]

Aug 10, 2016 7:54:26 GMT -5 roguelily said:

As Long as there is a phrase that says "breast is best" , there will be sides. A superlative that could never appropriately factor in the realities of the fact that there is a person attached to the milk, there can never be a declaration like that that is really fair. Thanks patriarchal oversimplification!

This. This I can get down with. BECAUSE IT'S NOT ALWAYS BEST. It's a good option. If it works for baby, mom, and overall family. Can we stop with the "best" bullshit? More support, regardless of what you choose, less "best" bullshit.

[elephantastic]

FFWC: I still get nervous whenever I'm notified that I'm "quoted" on Parenting.

[angelashly]

Aug 10, 2016 7:59:40 GMT -5 @amyg said:

Aug 10, 2016 7:56:39 GMT -5 cyprissa said:

I think it is really weird to call you immediately about this.

Why?
If someone groped you, would you maybe feel all gross about it and want to talk to your spouse for a bit of comfort and reassurance?
Cause if it's ok for a woman it's ok for a man to feel I my about being groped and want to call and talk about it right away.

My SO would not feel the need to call me in the middle of the night to tell me. Maybe that means that he is not uncomfortable with women groping him and we have bigger problems, but it would probably would have been a ha ha guess what happened tonight when he crawled in bed or I talked to him the next day.

[yogini kiki]

I turn my lovetit notifications on when I feel super terrible about myself.

[acorn99]

Skipping over the Trump and maggot talk...

FFWC: I would totally let Chip Gaines do naughty things to me while whispering his dad jokes in my ear.




And I would probably let Joanna join us.

[Deleted]

Aug 10, 2016 7:17:17 GMT -5 @hilarityensued said:

Aug 10, 2016 7:12:38 GMT -5 bibliothecary said:

Because formula is a good option, but I think we can all agree that any product out there can be improved upon and maybe the studies into the components of breastmilk can better inform the ingredients in formula?

I think this is sort of a forced breezy global statement that is really thinly veiled, Biblio. And frankly, it doesn't have any place in a discussion about supporting breastfeeding, because it is irrelevant if you are trying to maintain the position that you don't feel like formula is poison.  

You have a but, too.

I know you mean well, Biblio, BUT that statement is making me feel some kind of way.

[elephantastic]

Sometimes I will Love Tit someone's post if no one else has and it was a few pages back (ie- the thread has moved on).

*To be clear, a random post/drinking post/etc- not something hateful or rood.