Post by littlemissmarla on Jan 20, 2015 8:59:49 GMT -5
We decided to get rid of the swaddle cold turkey Sunday night and remove the positioner we had under the sheet. I was basically expecting all hell to break loose, but surprisingly it wasn't terrible for the first night! DD normally STTN swaddled so we didn't know what to expect, we put her in her zipadeezip and after she ate she went down at 8pm.
She slept all the way until 1 and then pooped and decided she wasn't going back to sleep. After 3 hrs of trying to put her back to sleep, feeding and popping the binky in - I gave up and tried swaddling her but she started screaming lol. Back into the zipadeezip and then I decided to put her in her crib in her room as opposed to the porta rib in our bedroom. I let her watch her mobile for a bit and after I saw she wasn't going down on her own I flipped her on her belly turned on her glow seahorse and she was OUt. She went back to sleep from 4-7.
Last night ended up almost the same except she decided to poop at 4 and then went back to sleep about 5:15. Of course she never poops during the night but why not start now haha.
I'm hoping tonight she will hold off her poop until the am!
Friday: I did our routine and laid her down, she cried for about 28 minutes and then went to sleep. She woke up a few times but went back to sleep on her own. I got her up at 7:15 (she will have to be up by 6:45 during the week so I want to keep her weekend schedule similar) She is capable of STTN. She has done it many times without needing to eat.
Saturday: I wasn't planning on letting her CIO for naps yet. But naps have been a struggle for us with her only napping 30-40 minutes at home (but 1 1/2 - 2 hours at daycare) I rocked her and got her down and she woke up 15 minutes later. I went back in and tried to rock her back to sleep and she wasn't having it. I rocked her and laid he down and she fussed for about 15 minutes but then slept for 2 hours. Her second nap she fussed for about 2 minutes slept for 30 then fussed for like 10 and slept another hour. That night I laid her down and she only cried for 2 minutes before falling asleep. She woke up a few times only fussing, one time she woke up and wasn't really even fussing but then my cat pushed open her door so she thought I was coming in there and got upset. Dang cat. But only cried for like maybe 10 minutes. We got her up at 7:30.
Sunday: She cried for 30 minutes before falling asleep (turned in a full circle in her crib before falling asleep - I think she was mimicking the cat ) then slept most of the night only waking up a little and didn't "cry" once. I got her up at 7:00 (I was running late).
Monday: She cried for about 18 minutes and woke up a few times but only cried once for a minute or two.
All in all I am considering it a success and I am very happy we did it. It is very hard listening to her cry - well more like scream. But she is sleeping better and I don't have the anxiety of ok when is she going to wake up. Before I couldn't really do anything after she went to bed because she would always wake up at least once before I went to bed. I was able to shower and have hot chocolate last night after she went to bed - go ahead and laugh, but its the little things.
Post by isolemnlyswear on Jan 20, 2015 20:44:26 GMT -5
I started step one of sleep training and that was brining the other arm out of her swaddle. We tried about a month ago and it was a disaster. So far so good! She has been sleeping for about an hour and hasn't woken up yet which is a huge improvement over last time we tried. Once we have both arms mastered we will start having her go to sleep awake. Right now she goes to sleep 80% asleep which works but I know will bite me in the butt if I don't correct.
mary1217 we struggle with naps too. I can usually only get 30-45 minutes out of her. Did you just leave her in there when she woke up the first time or did you check on her in intervals until she fell back asleep? I would LOVE to get her naps turned around but can't seem to figure out how.
isolemnlyswear The first nap where she woke up after only 15 minutes (where I had rocked her to sleep) I went in and rocked her for a few minutes and rocked her and she was awake and I laid her down and she cried for a little while off and on then went to sleep. But the second nap when she woke up after 30 is minutes I did not go in there. I think she woke up because she fell asleep on her back and usually sleeps on her stomach. I now lay her on her stomach to start.
isolemnlyswear The first nap where she woke up after only 15 minutes (where I had rocked her to sleep) I went in and rocked her for a few minutes and rocked her and she was awake and I laid her down and she cried for a little while off and on then went to sleep. But the second nap when she woke up after 30 is minutes I did not go in there. I think she woke up because she fell asleep on her back and usually sleeps on her stomach. I now lay her on her stomach to start.
I tried today. It ended in an epic fail. She screamed so hard I thought she was going to make herself sick. I fought with her on her second nap and pretty much wanted to cry myself because she is so exhausting. She fought me hard for 30 minutes but I finally got her back asleep after she woke up from her second nap after only 30 minutes. I hate nap time....
isolemnlyswear The first nap where she woke up after only 15 minutes (where I had rocked her to sleep) I went in and rocked her for a few minutes and rocked her and she was awake and I laid her down and she cried for a little while off and on then went to sleep. But the second nap when she woke up after 30 is minutes I did not go in there. I think she woke up because she fell asleep on her back and usually sleeps on her stomach. I now lay her on her stomach to start.
I tried today. It ended in an epic fail. She screamed so hard I thought she was going to make herself sick. I fought with her on her second nap and pretty much wanted to cry myself because she is so exhausting. She fought me hard for 30 minutes but I finally got her back asleep after she woke up from her second nap after only 30 minutes. I hate nap time....
Awww. I am so sorry. I feel your pain. There was a day a few months ago where I literally spent all day trying to get lo to take a nap. Laid her down a total of like 8 times and she woke up EVERY SINGLE TIME. While we were in Boston for Thanksgiving all of her naps were either on me or in the car. I hope it gets better for you soon!
I'm waiting on the real sleep training till after our 6 month exam next week. LO will probably move to his own room then. I'm kinda torn up about that. I like that I can check on him at night so easily if I need, and I can hear him breathing! Ugh.
I'm waiting on the real sleep training till after our 6 month exam next week. LO will probably move to his own room then. I'm kinda torn up about that. I like that I can check on him at night so easily if I need, and I can hear him breathing! Ugh.
9. Walk into a wall, literally, at your workplace, due to fatigue.
Now that we've tackled napping in his crib, we started step-one last night with one arm out of the swaddle. And he kept rolling over and over and over, eventually he got his second arm out and we just let him be. Last night was an epic fail. He was up roughly every half hour to hour he would roll onto his front and start fussing, then cry. We'd flip him over and within a few minutes he was back on his front. I finally took him out of his crib around 3AM and put him in his swing. He immediately fell asleep, then his swing died (again). I just left him in his swing, not moving until he woke up at 8:30. Tonight is going to be another looooong night.
Post by honeybee434 on Jan 22, 2015 11:53:51 GMT -5
DH wants to do CIO with DD and I don't. She isn't on anything remotely resembling a schedule for the hours that I'm not at home (DH's fault) and he hasn't done any research to even know methods of CIO. I don't think its fair to even start doing a CIO method when you don't keep the baby on a schedule. Of course her sleep is going to be messed up at night, she's so confused about when she is supposed to sleep and for how long! I told him today that if he got her on a schedule and did research to tell me what methods he agreed with we would talk about it. I got hung up on. I know exactly what he wants: he wants me to do all of the work and then just tell him what to do AND be the one to deal with most of the crying since she wants me more than DH when she cries. Eff that.
Now that we've tackled napping in his crib, we started step-one last night with one arm out of the swaddle. And he kept rolling over and over and over, eventually he got his second arm out and we just let him be. Last night was an epic fail. He was up roughly every half hour to hour he would roll onto his front and start fussing, then cry. We'd flip him over and within a few minutes he was back on his front. I finally took him out of his crib around 3AM and put him in his swing. He immediately fell asleep, then his swing died (again). I just left him in his swing, not moving until he woke up at 8:30. Tonight is going to be another looooong night.
If you can suggest anything, please do!!
I take it back. We put Spencer down for a nap and he is LOSING his mind. It sounds like he's being tortured in his room. Calm down, it's just a nap. I wish someone would make me take a nap a few times a day. Ay yi yi
Checking back in. Tonight will be a full week since we started, she maybe cried for 15 seconds after I closed her door last night and other than turning her head didn't move an inch in her crib from where I laid her down (sometime by the time I wake up she has wiggled into the top right hand corner). She has been doing great all week.
Honestly I am so happy that we did CIO. I completely understand everything doesn't work for everyone. But our evenings are so much better and I get to spend more time with her because I can put things off till after she goes to bed (like showering, etc.) Our mornings used to be so crazy - I was having to get up super early to try and get ready before she woke up - which rarely happened, and once she woke up it wasn't like I could spend quality time with her while I was finishing getting ready and packing/loading up for the day. I am now sleeping 30 minutes longer in the morning and if she wakes up she usually falls right back to sleep.
Last night she slept from 7:20 p.m. - 6:50 a.m. I would ideally like to push her bedtime back some - but that is dependent on what time she wakes up from her last nap.
I nurse my baby to sleep every night in the rocking chair. She wakes up about every two hours, whining and then crying. As soon as I hear her and wake, I put her on the boob until she falls asleep which generally takes 5-15 minutes. She doesn't use a pacifier at all and this is what I've done since she was a newborn. It's what is working and I'm afraid to mess with it.
That used to me, but then I started to fucking lose it with getting up so much and then going to work. Sooo we're Ferberizing. It's going well so far, we're down to 1-2 feedings at night and a couple of wakeups that he seems to be recovering from well and is getting better at soothing himself back to sleep.
Sometimes my Mommy will call for reinforcements by sending in Daddy. Don’t worry Daddies are not set up for not needing sleep the way Mommies are. They can only handle a few pats and shhing before they declare defeat and send in the Mommy.
Checking back in. Tonight will be a full week since we started, she maybe cried for 15 seconds after I closed her door last night and other than turning her head didn't move an inch in her crib from where I laid her down (sometime by the time I wake up she has wiggled into the top right hand corner). She has been doing great all week.
Honestly I am so happy that we did CIO. I completely understand everything doesn't work for everyone. But our evenings are so much better and I get to spend more time with her because I can put things off till after she goes to bed (like showering, etc.) Our mornings used to be so crazy - I was having to get up super early to try and get ready before she woke up - which rarely happened, and once she woke up it wasn't like I could spend quality time with her while I was finishing getting ready and packing/loading up for the day. I am now sleeping 30 minutes longer in the morning and if she wakes up she usually falls right back to sleep.
Last night she slept from 7:20 p.m. - 6:50 a.m. I would ideally like to push her bedtime back some - but that is dependent on what time she wakes up from her last nap.
All of this. And she is now napping in her crib twice a day and getting anywhere from 1.5-2 hours per nap.
I use to rock her or nurse her to sleep everytime and I was always afraid I was going to wake her up if I was even remotely going near her room. Now the dogs bark and I'm not worried about her waking up.
Post by honeybee434 on Jan 24, 2015 12:42:10 GMT -5
Well, we have to try to get DD to sleep in her crib. Last night I had to hold her for 3 hours and DH had to hold her 4. And she did SO well the night before in her RNP, but after last night I don't have much of an argument anymore. I don't mind holding her for 30 minutes if she wakes up, but all night long? Can't do it without snapping. I see a lot of baby crying in my future tonight.
Post by madameovary on Jan 24, 2015 18:47:30 GMT -5
We never really had the 4 month sleep regression, but that is because we never progressed past waking every 2 or 3 hours for sleep. "BBQ" is 6.5 months old now and weighs over 17 lbs. I started using the method described in The happiest baby on the block sleep guide, which consists of white noise, cluster feeding in the evening, putting to bed drowsy but awake, and wake to feed. The white noise has been helpful for lengthening naps, but didn't make a dent in night time sleep. I'm going to keep with it for a week or so and see if it helps. I did not wake to feed since he beat me to it.
Post by honeybee434 on Jan 24, 2015 22:20:02 GMT -5
Well, I'm currently on a 10 minute crying interval and I hate every minute of it. She's screaming like the world is ending. And Im giving myself a guilt trip that all of my other methods for getting her to sleep haven't worked so now I'm resorting to the one thing I never wanted to do! I don't even care if she wakes up every 3 hours at night or if I have to nurse her to sleep, I just have to get her to stay asleep without being held instead of screaming the instant I put her down.
Well, I'm currently on a 10 minute crying interval and I hate every minute of it. She's screaming like the world is ending. And Im giving myself a guilt trip that all of my other methods for getting her to sleep haven't worked so now I'm resorting to the one thing I never wanted to do! I don't even care if she wakes up every 3 hours at night or if I have to nurse her to sleep, I just have to get her to stay asleep without being held instead of screaming the instant I put her down.
I was like this the other night. Part of me wants to just leave the house for the first night. After 45 minutes of crying I started to cry listening to her cry. It's a lot tougher then it seems.
Post by honeybee434 on Jan 24, 2015 23:29:23 GMT -5
Thanks ladies! She actually fell asleep at the very end of her 15 minute interval, so only about 25 minutes of total crying! I've had to go in and check on her twice to make sure she was breathing because I was so suprised. I'm nervous for when she wakes up to eat, because I'm sure we will go through it all over again and I may not get as lucky the next time, but I'll take what I can get for now!
Edit: I spoke too soon. An hour and a half of sleep and she's awake and now screaming again. Looks like I'll be camping out on the couch tonight!
Sleep training now.... She's fighting it. Currently on the 5 minute interval. I know we are going to go higher....
Poor baby and poor mama. Hope it goes well.
Thank you! It actually went better then expected. It only took 10 minutes. She woke up about 40 minutes later and I checked her after 3 minutes and then she went to sleep.
Post by honeybee434 on Jan 26, 2015 23:07:37 GMT -5
We're on night 3 of DD sleeping in the crib. Last night she didn't cry at all when I put her down. She woke up twice to eat and the 2nd time cried for 4 minutes and then fell asleep. Tonight she cried for 6 minutes and then fell asleep. I feel kinda bad for her tonight because she had a runny nose all day. :/ But, she is SO much happier during the day because she's sleeping so much better, so I don't want to give in and hold her all night because of a runny nose.
Post by pregsmcsnooznomore on Jan 29, 2015 6:53:42 GMT -5
Hey ladies! We Ferberized LO last weekend and it's been a freaking miracle...life changing, for real, I feel like I've been liberated from baby jail!
Anyway, I have a question for those of you familiar with Ferber.
What do you do if a few days have gone by and you haven't had to do any checks, and all of the sudden you need one? Do you move up to the next longer start interval since the last time you needed one, or do you move up several start intervals since you are several days later?
Hey ladies! We Ferberized LO last weekend and it's been a freaking miracle...life changing, for real, I feel like I've been liberated from baby jail!
Anyway, I have a question for those of you familiar with Ferber.
What do you do if a few days have gone by and you haven't had to do any checks, and all of the sudden you need one? Do you move up to the next longer start interval since the last time you needed one, or do you move up several start intervals since you are several days later?
Yes girl, yes! Isn't it amazing! To have time back and better sleep at night?!?! I was very skeptical of Ferber at first but I'm a believer!!!
I'm not 100% sure of the answer to your question. But I'll be interested to know the answer (if someone has it). I know what I did, which I don't even know if it's correct though. DD tends to still wake up 1-2 times at night to feed. So when I hear her, I just wait out the longest interval check that we reached before going in. Again, not even sure if that's right.
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