I know we have a lot of late O-ers. What is the earliest you've ever O'd?
I I'd on CD 11 three cycles in a row, out of the blue. Related question: how long was your longest luteal phase? How much have your luteal phases varied?
Earliest O: CD 13 Latest O: CD 21 Shortest LP: 14 Longest LP: 17
I haven't made it through all the posts yet.... But I could use some opk help. I'm using them for the first time and trying to decide when to start/what time to test each day. I'm on day 8 with cycles averaging 27-32 days. I'm thinking about starting tomorrow because I have had some slippery cf today. I work 1-10pm the next two days.... Should I test at 12 before I leave for work, or take it to work and test around 2? TIA!
I like to test early and often, lol.
In three of the four cycles where I've used OPKs, I've caught the beginning of my LH surge after 8PM in the evening. In fact, yesterday I tested around 6P because I'd been noticing a change in my CM. Negative, but noticeably darker than the OPK I took over the weekend. On a whim, I decided to test again when I went to bed around 12:30AM - and it was positive. Still positive tonight, so I am guessing tomorrow is likely to be ovulation day. So, if you have some Wondfos or other internet cheapies, it might not hurt to test at 12 before leaving for work and again when you get home for one cycle, just to see if you can see a fade in pattern or get an idea of when your surge might be detectable.
shadesofgold - Earliest O was CD13, latest O was CD18. Those were my first two cycles off of BCP. Everything after that has been O between CD14-16.
michelleca - My luteal phases were 11 days for the first few cycles off of BCP. Then they started getting gradually longer (which got my hopes up for a few cycles...). My longest LP was 14 days. Now they tend to be 12-13 days.
penguin129 - I keep testing after a positive OPK until I get a negative. I like having all the data! I typically get 2 days of positive OPK's in each cycle (sometimes 3 days), and usually O on the day of my final positive. So for me, it's best to keep testing after the first positive.
mamahamm - testing at either 12 or 2 should be okay. I typically test around 12:30-1 when I go on my lunch break, and for me it's technically "third morning urine." I've always been able to detect my LH surge.
Post by PepperPottsJ on Jun 10, 2015 6:37:36 GMT -5
Thank you so much ladies, this was amazing to read through...
Just as a caution to my fellow IBS ladies, I spent 2 months trying to resolve abdominal pain. After ruling out an ectopic pg, I was told to be more careful with my diet (I was beyond careful) and that getting married and a new job were the source of my pain. At 2 am when I told H I needed to go to the ER right that minute, I had appendicitis, and clearly had an infection building for 2 months. I have a high pain threshold and it was a very ugly situation.
TL;DR IBS makes me nervous as an 'common' diagnosis, push for more testing if you know that's not the source of your pain
Post by goldenlove3 on Jun 10, 2015 6:48:23 GMT -5
My earliest O date was CD12 and my latest was CD21. Lately it's been CD14. LP is typically 14 days but has ranged from 12-15.
I did have a couple months last summer that were weird so I removed them from my FF stats. I never confirmed O the month before, had a period then had a really short cycle afterwards. That time I O'd on CD10 and had an 11 day LP.
1. I definitely have IBS and it doesn't feel at all like this. This is far far more painful and less achy/sick feeling. I'm not saying it couldn't manifest in two different ways within my body (anything's possible!), but it just feels unlikely. My body has a pattern to IBS and this is really not it.
2. I've had IBS for fifteen years and this pain just cropped up about six months ago. I was on birth control since my late teens until stopping in 2013. I never felt anything like this before I stopped bcp.
3. Infertility.
Does any of this mean I'm right? No. Does it suggest that maybe there's an issue? Yes. My RE and I discussed it and he feels it's a possibility. However, we both agreed that a lap wasn't necessary for a variety of reasons. It's not ruling my life, but it's something to keep in the back of my mind as we move forward with fertility treatments.
Why is the lap unnecessary? I don't know much about this. My Ob\gyn has been pushing for to get one. I requested an RE referral instead.
I asked him if I did have endo and we removed it, how much would it up my chances of conceiving? He said not much. So, there it lies for now.
Why is the lap unnecessary? I don't know much about this. My Ob\gyn has been pushing for to get one. I requested an RE referral instead.
I asked him if I did have endo and we removed it, how much would it up my chances of conceiving? He said not much. So, there it lies for now.
We can always re-evaulate at a later date.
I think that's a great way to look at it joy. Asking your RE is it will help you conceive could help in making a decision like that. I think the deicison to do the lap is all based on increasing fertility and reducing pain. I think seeing an RE to discuss this would be a good idea. None, Have you had an HSG or saline sono? Those can also help in decising to do that lap or not.
Edit... ok just saw your siggy. I'd have a repeat HSG done to get a better picture of what's going on if your first was done incorrrectly.
Last Edit: Jun 10, 2015 7:53:51 GMT -5 by remylove1011
Me (30) MH (32) Dx: MFI (low all the things) M. 10/11. TTC Since 01/14 IUI#1-3(Letrozole + Trigger) = BFN Second Opinion. Changed RE's. IVF 09/15 Long Lupron 12R/9M/8F, Transferred 1=BFN. 4 frosties. FET #1 12/15 Transferred 1 (3 still on ice)
I asked him if I did have endo and we removed it, how much would it up my chances of conceiving? He said not much. So, there it lies for now.
We can always re-evaulate at a later date.
I think that's a great way to look at it joy. Asking your RE is it will help you conceive could help in making a decision like that. I think the deicison to do the lap is all based on increasing fertility and reducing pain. I think seeing an RE to discuss this would be a good idea. None, Have you had an HSG or saline sono? Those can also help in decising to do that lap or not.
Edit... ok just saw your siggy. I'd have a repeat HSG done to get a better picture of what's going on if your first was done incorrrectly.
joy, that is an excellent point, thank you. The ob/gyn said it would "cured" my infertility. She followed that up with its unlikely that they would find anything and that wouldn't help me.
remylove1011, I will be sure to bring that up. I didn't realize an hsg could be so helpful. I also had a pelvic ultrasound which was normal.
jess9802 I may try testing twice a day once the line starts/is darkening. My schedule is all over the place (it can be anything from 9-9, 8-4, 1-10, and some shorter shifts in between) so it's really a pain. I bought the clinical guard opk with 40 ovulation strips and 10 hcg strips (which I've already used two of lol)
Post by remylove1011 on Jun 10, 2015 8:49:28 GMT -5
None it'd be something good to have and know that you're all clear in that regards. Like PP's have said, only the lap can confirm an endo diagnosis, but it's important to have all the information before deciding to do a lap. Your OB sounds like a special person with her magic infertility cure. I'd now take everything out of her mouth with a grain of salt.
Me (30) MH (32) Dx: MFI (low all the things) M. 10/11. TTC Since 01/14 IUI#1-3(Letrozole + Trigger) = BFN Second Opinion. Changed RE's. IVF 09/15 Long Lupron 12R/9M/8F, Transferred 1=BFN. 4 frosties. FET #1 12/15 Transferred 1 (3 still on ice)
remylove1011, that gave me a good giggle. I have described her infertility options, most of which included seeing a doctor my insurance wont pay for as voodoo magic. They do things like uterine washes and strict diet.(Seeing an RE we will only pay for the iui or the ivf itself) My husband and I often make jokes about believing science not voodoo magic.
I think that's a great way to look at it joy. Asking your RE is it will help you conceive could help in making a decision like that. I think the deicison to do the lap is all based on increasing fertility and reducing pain. I think seeing an RE to discuss this would be a good idea. None, Have you had an HSG or saline sono? Those can also help in decising to do that lap or not.
Edit... ok just saw your siggy. I'd have a repeat HSG done to get a better picture of what's going on if your first was done incorrrectly.
joy, that is an excellent point, thank you. The ob/gyn said it would "cured" my infertility. She followed that up with its unlikely that they would find anything and that wouldn't help me.
remylove1011, I will be sure to bring that up. I didn't realize an hsg could be so helpful. I also had a pelvic ultrasound which was normal.
I'm in complete agreement with joy . If there is no clear benefit to having it done, then why undergo surgery. I'm pursuing the lap because my HSG results were normal. My focus is to reduce pain, if they had found anything out of the ordinary, then we would be going a different route.
H may be going on antidepressants. I'm not sure what to ask/research about what is safe while TTC? He said he doesn't wanna do it if it will effect our chances, but his health is important to me..
Post by shadesofgold on Jun 10, 2015 13:47:39 GMT -5
This is probably one of the top 10 questions ever asked on TTC but I'm anxious about it. And when I'm anxious I need ALL THE INPUT.
I'm CD9 with fertile CM. I'm on vacation tomorrow through Monday (CD10-15) - I'm going from Eastern to Pacific time. I usually BBT at 7 am. My temp time usually is more important than my sleep the previous night (meaning the temp difference between shit sleep and wonderful sleep is usually less than the temp difference between 6 am and 7 am). Usually I just stick with 7 am local time and note the time change, but I am going to be really scrutinizing these temps for possible O. WWYD?
This is probably one of the top 10 questions ever asked on TTC but I'm anxious about it. And when I'm anxious I need ALL THE INPUT.
I'm CD9 with fertile CM. I'm on vacation tomorrow through Monday (CD10-15) - I'm going from Eastern to Pacific time. I usually BBT at 7 am. My temp time usually is more important than my sleep the previous night (meaning the temp difference between shit sleep and wonderful sleep is usually less than the temp difference between 6 am and 7 am). Usually I just stick with 7 am local time and note the time change, but I am going to be really scrutinizing these temps for possible O. WWYD?
1. I'd relax.
2. I'd do the best I can.
Honestly, even if your temps are a little rocky, you'll still probably be able to pick out your ovulation day or a span of two days that it most likely happened in. That's a whole hell of a lot better than no clue at all, right?
This is probably one of the top 10 questions ever asked on TTC but I'm anxious about it. And when I'm anxious I need ALL THE INPUT.
I'm CD9 with fertile CM. I'm on vacation tomorrow through Monday (CD10-15) - I'm going from Eastern to Pacific time. I usually BBT at 7 am. My temp time usually is more important than my sleep the previous night (meaning the temp difference between shit sleep and wonderful sleep is usually less than the temp difference between 6 am and 7 am). Usually I just stick with 7 am local time and note the time change, but I am going to be really scrutinizing these temps for possible O. WWYD?
1. I'd relax.
2. I'd do the best I can.
Honestly, even if your temps are a little rocky, you'll still probably be able to pick out your ovulation day or a span of two days that it most likely happened in. That's a whole hell of a lot better than no clue at all, right?
Honestly, even if your temps are a little rocky, you'll still probably be able to pick out your ovulation day or a span of two days that it most likely happened in. That's a whole hell of a lot better than no clue at all, right?
Real talk.
Thanks, girl!
It's been lacking on this board!!! I love being able to say it and have the other person get it.
I realize that it's stressful, I realize that you want to have it all exact, but life is crazy. It can't always be perfect. You'll do the best you can and if you can't pinpoint a day, you'll at least pinpoint a span of days. It'll be fine! :-)
It's been lacking on this board!!! I love being able to say it and have the other person get it.
I realize that it's stressful, I realize that you want to have it all exact, but life is crazy. It can't always be perfect. You'll do the best you can and if you can't pinpoint a day, you'll at least pinpoint a span of days. It'll be fine! :-)
H may be going on antidepressants. I'm not sure what to ask/research about what is safe while TTC? He said he doesn't wanna do it if it will effect our chances, but his health is important to me..
I have seen reports that say SSRIs can lower sperm count and possibly cause MFI. However, I could not find anything from the last year to support this information. I would urge your husband to discuss this concern with his doctor, in order to determine if the risks outweigh the benefits. There may also be other medications available that may work for your husband.
This is probably one of the top 10 questions ever asked on TTC but I'm anxious about it. And when I'm anxious I need ALL THE INPUT.
I'm CD9 with fertile CM. I'm on vacation tomorrow through Monday (CD10-15) - I'm going from Eastern to Pacific time. I usually BBT at 7 am. My temp time usually is more important than my sleep the previous night (meaning the temp difference between shit sleep and wonderful sleep is usually less than the temp difference between 6 am and 7 am). Usually I just stick with 7 am local time and note the time change, but I am going to be really scrutinizing these temps for possible O. WWYD?
1. I'd relax.
2. I'd do the best I can.
Honestly, even if your temps are a little rocky, you'll still probably be able to pick out your ovulation day or a span of two days that it most likely happened in. That's a whole hell of a lot better than no clue at all, right?
Joy gives great advice.
I agree that it is definitely possible to pinpoint ovulation even with rocky temps. I have rocky temps almost every cycle. Sometimes I second guess myself, but i'm able to see the change even without the use of OPKs.
H may be going on antidepressants. I'm not sure what to ask/research about what is safe while TTC? He said he doesn't wanna do it if it will effect our chances, but his health is important to me..
I have seen reports that say SSRIs can lower sperm count and possibly cause MFI. However, I could not find anything from the last year to support this information. I would urge your husband to discuss this concern with his doctor, in order to determine if the risks outweigh the benefits. There may also be other medications available that may work for your husband.
That's pretty much what I found too. He will definitely be talking to them about it. Thanks!
H may be going on antidepressants. I'm not sure what to ask/research about what is safe while TTC? He said he doesn't wanna do it if it will effect our chances, but his health is important to me..
OOH! I know the answer to this question.
Most SSRI's such as Zoloft can affect sperm count & quality and libido. DH switched to Bupropion (wellbutrin) and it has been MUCH better for our sex life, and his last semen sample had many more healthy sperm than prior samples.
Last Edit: Jun 10, 2015 14:38:34 GMT -5 by NariaDreaming
5 years TTC 2 c/p's 2 failed IUIs/1 cancelled IVF 1 failed IVF 1 failed FET BFP 12/1/15. We said goodbye to Tiny 1/4/16 Fresh cycle #3 2/16 8R/7M/5F BFP 5/12/16 We said goodbye to flutter on 5/27 and poprock on 5/28 BFP 8/30/16 We said goodbye to Samuel 10/3 (Trisomy 16) Moving on to Donor Embryos BFP 12/20/16 We said goodbye to Turtle 12/30
H may be going on antidepressants. I'm not sure what to ask/research about what is safe while TTC? He said he doesn't wanna do it if it will effect our chances, but his health is important to me..
OOH! I know the answer to this question.
Most SSRI's such as Zoloft can affect sperm count & quality and libido. DH switched to Bupropion (wellbutrin) and it has been MUCH better for our sex life, and his last semen sample had many more healthy sperm than prior samples.
Post by LovesMeSomeCake on Jun 10, 2015 15:24:54 GMT -5
I have another question. What do you think of uterine massages? Are they legit? who does them? Drs or...? I've seen women on here talking about it but was afraid to ask.
I thought of another question... How many days before CD1 does your temp usually start to fall? Is there a normal range, or is it pretty different for everyone?
I thought of another question... How many days before CD1 does your temp usually start to fall? Is there a normal range, or is it pretty different for everyone?
It will be different for everyone. Mine tends to drop a bit the day before CD1 and drop again the morning of CD1.
I have another question. What do you think of uterine massages? Are they legit? who does them? Drs or...? I've seen women on here talking about it but was afraid to ask.
Clearly I'm uneducated on the matter because I've never heard of them other than being performed PP, but my thought is if it truly had some effect on fertility, wouldn't we hear more about it as a viable alternative to more clinical forms of treatment?
Married since 2010 DX w/PCOS in Feb 2011 Five cycles w/Letrozole+TI+IUI BFP w/injects+IUI in 2012 DD born May 2013 NTNP since 2015 Early miscarriage March 2015 TTA April/May BFP June! DS born February 2016
I have another question. What do you think of uterine massages? Are they legit? who does them? Drs or...? I've seen women on here talking about it but was afraid to ask.
Clearly I'm uneducated on the matter because I've never heard of them other than being performed PP, but my thought is if it truly had some effect on fertility, wouldn't we hear more about it as a viable alternative to more clinical forms of treatment?
maybe it was a postpartum thing. I kinda get lost on all the boards its fascinating. thank you zombiesquad,
I have another question. What do you think of uterine massages? Are they legit? who does them? Drs or...? I've seen women on here talking about it but was afraid to ask.
What the hell is a Uterine Massage?
I believe it is a technique employed by TCM (traditional Chinese medicine) meant to promote fertility by increasing blood flow and reduction of tension through gentle massage. I don't know anything on whether there is actual research to say if it is truly helpful.
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