Starting a new thread in case anyone wants to commiserate about baby not sleeping well or you can AW that your baby does sleep well and offer helpful tips to the not so lucky ones!
So in case anyone missed my random posts, I used to have a baby that would sleep 7-8 hours straight with only 1 wake up and ever since she hit 4 months we are back to 2-3 hour stretches with 4 wake ups. I'm hurting here. I keep second guessing what I am doing too.
She turns 5 months on November 1st so maybe we just need to get through this unlucky month of October.
Post by billyhorrible on Oct 22, 2015 15:23:39 GMT -5
BH is a phenomenal sleeper, but that really means nothing at this age since it changes so often. Typically he wakes at 3am. Last night he was up at 10:30 and wouldn't go back to sleep until midnight. Then up again at 4 and wouldn't go back to sleep. Then up at 6:30 and wouldn't go back to sleep.
I have a question and this seems like the perfect place. What time are you (everyone) starting your bedtime routine? Do you determine bedtime by a set time or do you follow LO's signals.
I'm following babies signals and I also am basing it on when the nanny is telling me was her last nap of the day. Do you think I should switch to a set time?
Monday of this week she woke up at 345pm and the nanny and DH weren't able to get her to nap again when I got home at 530 so she was cranky and ready to go to bed by 6. Where last night I got home and she woke up from her last nap at 515pm so she was ready for bed at 7ish. Her nap schedule is all over the place.
I think I'm having a really hard time juggling having a loud 2 year old who is excited to see me and jumping all around when I get home at 6 and then doing a routine with her at same time.
Post by mrsdee1982 on Oct 22, 2015 15:31:20 GMT -5
20 times. 20 times is when I stopped counting how many times I got up, got out of bed, shuffled into the nursery and soothed little Miss C the other night. I don't know how many more times I got up after that, but it was probably at least another 5-6, if not more.
Z has slept through the night once--when she was sick. Her normal was heading to 1 wake up somewhere between 12 and 2--bedtime around 7, and up for the day around 6. Now she's up around 1 and again around 4. I'm so tired, and I just really want her to sleep through the night. She's in month 2 at daycare, and her naps there are crappy (like 3 30-minute naps during the whole day). Her older sister was a "the more she sleeps, the more she sleeps" baby, and I can't help thinking that if she'd nap better at daycare, she'd sleep better at night.
We do a (fairly) set bedtime. I nurse to sleep, and we start around 6:45. She's usually down around 7:30. My alarm goes off at 6 am, and if Z is really still snoozing, I'll shower and then wake her to feed. If she's stirring, I'll feed her first and then shower (or run out of time and not shower). I don't have as much flexibility in the morning, so if Z sleeps in too long, then I have to pump basically on the way to work, and DH has to give her a bottle while also managing our 2 year old. So part of the set bedtime is our set wake up time.
The 'set' bedtime worked well for us with DD1. And because neither one is a great napper, I feel like they need the sleep at night. Plus, selfishly, it's nice to have a little kid free time with DH, which we use to do exciting things like fill bottles make lunches, and clear books, legos, and Little People off of our couch.
LO used to sleep 7-9 hours. Hah. Bite me, sleep regression!
We follow her cues; she usually initiates the bedtime routine between 7:30-8. Her Jammies are on, she gets in her sleep sack, sometimes we read a book, and she nurses to sleep.
Any tips for transitioning out of the rnp to the pnp? She has a sleep sack swaddle on (arms out), and she always wakes up wailing an hour later.
Post by hannahl201477 on Oct 22, 2015 16:21:08 GMT -5
I'm wondering if I push our bedtime routine up how sleep will go. He normally isn't even in bed until 9pm. It's so late bc he always takes a nap around 7 a very short one so we do late bedtime. Last night he was up 9:15-11:45 11:55-3 3-540 6-745. And this momma is so sleepy. I hope he starts sleeping better soon but has been sleeping bad for about a month and a half now.
We do a late bedtime too. Cole usually takes a small 30 minute nap around 7:30/7:45 (just in time for me to hopefully eat dinner) and in his pnp sleeping by 8:45/9. If I did an earlier bedtime DH would never see him (up and out the door most mornings by 6:30 and doesn't get home until 7 out of the shower by 7:30 dinner after. And this is on his non teaching nights)
I'm wondering if I push our bedtime routine up how sleep will go. He normally isn't even in bed until 9pm. It's so late bc he always takes a nap around 7 a very short one so we do late bedtime. Last night he was up 9:15-11:45 11:55-3 3-540 6-745. And this momma is so sleepy. I hope he starts sleeping better soon but has been sleeping bad for about a month and a half now.
When he takes his nap around 7, I would just put him to bed for the night. That's what we did with V because he was taking a nap around 630 or 7 because it had been so long since he took his last nap.
That's what I'm thinking. Just afraid of the time he will wake then. Haha. But then again it may work better.
I have a baby sleep question. W sleeps great overnight but I'm concerned he isn't getting enough sleep. He naps sporadically at daycare and that totals around 2 hours/day. In the evenings, he's pretty happy but about 50% of the time, he gets fussy and falls asleep in my arms around 7:15-7:30. We always start bedtime at 8 whether he's been awake all evening or takes a catnap and he's in his crib asleep at 8:30. Most mornings I have to wake him up at 7 but occasionally he will wake up on his own at 6:30.
I'm thinking that the need for catnaps is a signal that he needs to go to bed earlier. Does anybody have any thoughts on this? DH says he definitely doesn't need to go to bed earlier but I have a sneaking suspicion that DH says that because moving bedtime earlier means a bigger hit to our social life. I'm not really sure how to convince him without starting a giant fight (because having calm rational conversations right now is not my strong suit).
What time does your baby go to sleep? How much does your baby sleep during the day?
My babe sleeps 7:30-7ish plus about 4 hours in naps. I would say there's a definite possibility yours could use an earlier bedtime. But it sounds like what you're doing works ok too!
Owen has been sleeping 8-7:30/8:30 with 2 wake ups. The first one is anywhere from 11 to 2...depends on the night? The second is between 4&6 depending on when the first was. He's mostly sleeping in his swing. His bedtime routine is naked baby time on the changing pad, diaper change, pjs, swaddle up (aka squirrel suit), nursing in the dark with the sound machine on. He passes out while eating. He naps 2-4 hours a day. He always takes a half hour cat nap after I get home around 530...except for today. So now he's angry on my lap. Eta because more thoughts.
20 times. 20 times is when I stopped counting how many times I got up, got out of bed, shuffled into the nursery and soothed little Miss C the other night. I don't know how many more times I got up after that, but it was probably at least another 5-6, if not more.
@bubbs119 it's interesting you brought up the being cold factor. I'm thinking this weekend I need to buy her fleece PJs and a heavier sleep sack because when I unzipped her PJs last night her legs felt kind of cold.
I'm thinking I want to change her sheets to be cotton flannel instead of the normal bedsheet.
I keep questioning everything we are doing because whatever I'm doing now is not working.
Can I just come in and cry? Because mixing the four month sleep regression with going back to work makes me want to do just that. He needs an earlier bedtime, but we usually don't get home until about 7, so I'm struggling with sacrificing all of my snuggle time, especially when H hasn't seen him all day either.
I'm losing my shit tonight. I put V to bed around 7:40 and then he was up again 8 min later. I had been planning to follow him to bed at 8. I just fell apart and started crying.
I'm fucking exhausted. I haven't slept in 5.5 weeks. My husband and I haven't had sex since September. I have no time to myself. I'm just feeling so defeated and hopeless.
It's ok to get upset-- sleep deprivation is a form of torture--I've certainly cried over lack of sleep. It will get better. I have to remind myself that our older kid is happily sleeping down the hall. I know my Z will get there and so will V. Can someone spell you for a night so you can at least get some rest? With or without DH and with or without sex?
Post by musicfrk2002 on Oct 22, 2015 19:47:58 GMT -5
I'm sorry to everyone who is getting crappy sleep.
I can't complain much. J sleeps 11 to 12 hours at night, no sign of regression. He did wake up around 3:30 a few nights ago, but once he had his pacifier he was out again.
However, he doesn't nap during the day. I get maaaaybe 1 to 2 hours total from him. He is far too interested in everything around him. But I will definitely take sleeping all night over good naps right now.
Post by carolyngrace on Oct 22, 2015 20:01:05 GMT -5
We have a few issues..
1) Waking up an hour after falling asleep to eat more. I'm kind of ok with that for now but hopes he drops it eventually.
2) waking up every 2 hours. He does it like every other night, and then he'll have a normal night (2 wake ups). This morning I nursed him at 5am and he was up fussing again by 6. I knew he didn't want to be up for the day because he never wakes up before seven. Also, he was barely eating every time you got up last night so I knew he wasn't hungry. DH went in and changed his diaper and put him back down and he fell back asleep. So now I'm wondering if having a wet diaper could be waking him up or keeping them up? I'm also always second-guessing if he's hot or cold in that's doing it.
3) sometimes he falls asleep on his own just fine. And then nights like tonight he screams like bloody murder for almost an hour. DH and I can't decide if we want to do some actual form of sleep training. So we just keep winging it. But I'm worried the inconsistency is making it worse the nights he cries. Tonight I ended up rocking him to sleep, which we have said we wouldn't do.
I'm losing my shit tonight. I put V to bed around 7:40 and then he was up again 8 min later. I had been planning to follow him to bed at 8. I just fell apart and started crying.
I'm fucking exhausted. I haven't slept in 5.5 weeks. My husband and I haven't had sex since September. I have no time to myself. I'm just feeling so defeated and hopeless.
I'm right there with you! Today I took him to Mother's Day out and came straight back and slept off and on until I picked him up. Normally I would feel guilty, not today though. I told DH I wasn't running any work errands for him and not to expect me to have washed clothes. I hope this ends soon. I'm at my breaking point. Some days the only thing that helps me is reminding myself it will end one day.
I have a baby sleep question. W sleeps great overnight but I'm concerned he isn't getting enough sleep. He naps sporadically at daycare and that totals around 2 hours/day. In the evenings, he's pretty happy but about 50% of the time, he gets fussy and falls asleep in my arms around 7:15-7:30. We always start bedtime at 8 whether he's been awake all evening or takes a catnap and he's in his crib asleep at 8:30. Most mornings I have to wake him up at 7 but occasionally he will wake up on his own at 6:30.
I'm thinking that the need for catnaps is a signal that he needs to go to bed earlier. Does anybody have any thoughts on this? DH says he definitely doesn't need to go to bed earlier but I have a sneaking suspicion that DH says that because moving bedtime earlier means a bigger hit to our social life. I'm not really sure how to convince him without starting a giant fight (because having calm rational conversations right now is not my strong suit).
What time does your baby go to sleep? How much does your baby sleep during the day?
We are in the same boat! C was going to bed around 9:30ish and sleeping through the night. The last 2 weeks or so she started waking up at 3am like clockwork. She usually fussed had a diaper Chang and went back to sleep. I also noticed she was falling asleep on her play mat by 8. This week we decided that at 8 we go up even if she already fell asleep. So far she's sleeping 9 hours straight again until we have to get her up at 5:45 to get ready for daycare. I think moving back bedtime has helped us to get her to sleep longer.
We are still in RnP over here too. LO's endless congestion and my desire for sleep have kept her there. She naps ok in her PnP when there is a soft blanket under her but I only do that during the day when I can keep an eye on her.
I suppose we just need to rip the bandaid off at some point.
As for bedtime, we usually follow LO's cues. It's pretty clear when she is ready for bed. She gets her bedtime bottle and then off to sleep. This usually between 630 and 7. If we put her to bed later for any reason she has a rough time falling asleep and it usually results in a rough night. Otherwise, she sleeps well, and I will leave it at that (because karma).
C has congestion overnight too. We put 2 rolled up Muslin swaddle blankets under one end of the mattress. It keeps her just slightly elevated and seems to work well.
I'm losing my shit tonight. I put V to bed around 7:40 and then he was up again 8 min later. I had been planning to follow him to bed at 8. I just fell apart and started crying.
I'm fucking exhausted. I haven't slept in 5.5 weeks. My husband and I haven't had sex since September. I have no time to myself. I'm just feeling so defeated and hopeless.
*hugs*
DH was wanting some last night, and I had to hold back laughter. Really, sweetie, it's midnight. Aaaand the baby just woke up, again. Maybe next month?
So tonight out of desperation I cranked up the white noise machine in her room to an uncomfortable level right before I put her in the crib and she hasn't done her usual wake up. We'll see how the night goes.
Post by wegrowsheep on Oct 22, 2015 23:31:29 GMT -5
Got home from ranch at 8:30. T still wide awake, having only napped for a couple hrs total today, maybe. Got big kids in bed, nursed T. Still no sleepies. Laid him on my pillow and held both his hands and quietly shushed him. Finally asleep. And earlier, what happens when mommy grabs the Children's Place 9-12 m pj's instead of the Carter's 9 m pj's? Swimming in the giant pj's! (was not at home to fix it)
It's ok to get upset-- sleep deprivation is a form of torture--I've certainly cried over lack of sleep. It will get better. I have to remind myself that our older kid is happily sleeping down the hall. I know my Z will get there and so will V. Can someone spell you for a night so you can at least get some rest? With or without DH and with or without sex?
H has offered to help (as have my parents), but he's eating 4 times a night. I'd still have to pump to replace the milk used, and nursing him is much quicker. Also, I'll still hear him when he wakes up and I don't think I'll be able to ignore him.
I may be able to get past all of that soon though if things don't get better.
It's so hard. I haven't had anyone take a night either, though my mom has pointed out that the pump doesn't have to be convinced to go back to sleep. When V does sleep through, you will wake up terrified that something is wrong. Then you'll realize it's just an awesome day.
B slept for almost 6 hours straight last night!!! I seriously think that my child knows when I am about ready to snap (the night before he was up every hour and a half- 2 hours) and decided to allow me a few consecutive hours of sleep. Ohhh man, so wonderful!
Aww budders! I'm so sorry! Is there anyway you can nurse and then hand V over to YH? Since you said V nurses quickly, then at least you could get a little more sleep. And DH & I still have not DTD since April.
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